Talk:Constitution of 3 May 1791
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Gierowski references[edit]
I may add a few more references from Gierowski's parts that I haven't covered yet. I will use some of the material and references from this article in the history 1764-1795 article, when I get to that point. Orczar (talk) 13:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Two thirds / three fourths majorities?[edit]
The constitution text clearly states: "Everything, everywhere, shall be decided by majority vote;" and this is confirmed by Wagner (p.389): "For the validity of resolutions, which comprised measures having nopermanent character (including budgetary questions, diplomatic measures,decision on war and peace and temporary taxes), a majority of the votes of allmembers of the Sejm were necessary." Unfortunately, I no longer have access to Jedruch, but nothing in the constitution text supports the two-thirds/three-quarters reading, now removed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
name[edit]
Per [1]: which English name is better? Constitution of May 3, 1791 or Constitution of 3 May 1791? In Polish, it's "trzeciego maja" (3 May) word order, is there a preference in English? Ping User:Poeticbent, User:Nihil novi, User:Volunteer Marek, User:Halibutt, User:Blueye. Also, I tried to see if WP:MOSDATE has a recommendation but I don't see any (ping User:Squeamish Ossifrage who commented on dates last FAC discussion). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- Americans usually use the "May 3, 1791" order in dates. Europeans (perhaps including the British), as reflected in our sister European-language Wikipedias, overwhelmingly prefer "3 May 1791".
- We need not necessarily defer to the Americans, even if Wikipedia is headquartered in San Francisco.
- Nihil novi (talk) 03:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- BrE is the official variety of English in the EU, and Poland-related articles should use EngVarB IMHO. I support a rename. — kashmiri TALK 09:26, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- I would find "Constitution of 3 May 1791" acceptable.
- As to variety of English to be used on Wikipedia generally, it has usually been the practice to follow the spelling adopted by the article's originator.
- When a British spelling is used, I favor Oxford spelling–one of the two major varieties used in Britiain–which is not that far from "American" spelling, except for such Anglo-Norman British spellings as "honour" and "colour".
- Nihil novi (talk) 04:59, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- BrE is the official variety of English in the EU, and Poland-related articles should use EngVarB IMHO. I support a rename. — kashmiri TALK 09:26, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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