Talk:Parzival

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There is a loth of symbolism in the tale, it schould be added but I'm not the right person to do it. Mindconqueror 19:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where did the "further adventures" come from? I'm thrilled someone is filling this out! -Ben 22:06, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Consider adding a "plot spoiler" warning before discussing the content of the poem War-hammer 04:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"...written by..." or "...by..."?[edit]

I propose to change "...is a medieval German romance written by the poet Wolfram von Eschenbach..." back to "...is a medieval German romance by the poet Wolfram von Eschenbach...". Wolfram remarks, in Parzival, "ine kan decheinen buochstap" (I don't know a single letter, I cannot read or write), which may or may not be a joke. "Written by" precludes the possibility that it is not; "by" admits either possibility. --Frans Fowler (talk) 16:39, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are, of course, long epic works composed orally, but Parzival is not one of them. There is simply no need for this change, and in any case it is perfectly normal practice to talk of Pz being written. In fact it's even perfectly normal to talk of known oral compositions - the Iliad, for example - as being "written" by their supposed authors. --Pfold (talk) 20:10, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

“Knight-poet”[edit]

In the lead sentence, Wolfram von Eschenbach is described as a “knight-poet”. Was this actually a thing, or would it be more realistic to say that he was “a knight and a poet”? — HTGS (talk) 22:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it.— Ermenrich (talk) 12:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Expand by translating from German Wikipedia?[edit]

I propose that the Expand from the German banner be removed. It has been there since 2011. Much of the German article is unreferenced, as indeed is much of this English one. (German Wikipedia generally relies less on verifiability and enforces verifiability less strictly, which seems to be reflected in many English Wikipedia articles on Germany-related subjects.) I should think the better way to improve and expand the English article would be first to find more references for the material already in it (but that itself would be hard enough) and then expand the article with new, properly referenced, contributions. Just incorporating more translation from the German article might well add to the verifiability problems already present in the English article and so, I suggest, ought not be encouraged. ---- Frans Fowler (talk) 18:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The German article is only longer because its very indulgent plot synopsis.--Pfold (talk) 21:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and done. — HTGS (talk) 23:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]