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Dark mode is coming!

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T365623

If you haven't seen the news, natively-supported dark mode is coming. I think if you want to try it without opting in etc. this is a link you can try (it worked for me in private mode of Firefox).

This means the main page needs some styles. Previously it was basically how any old page in the main space looks (e.g. Facebook: just a black background and borders). I took an hour or two to give it a color theme reminiscent of light mode with some use of this web theme maker (I got the "value" for the light mode colors in the spectrum, then flipped them relative to 1000) and then made a single tweak (the purple used for TFP). Wikipedia:Main Page/styles.css has the colors (which are duplicated for the "OS" selection) if you want a readable summary.

Visited links are not necessarily accessible currently, but they aren't accessible on the current dark mode either (contrast of 3.5), so I don't think it's worth spending a ton of time on that.

If anyone thinks things aren't ideal (and I suspect they aren't), feel free to nudge things in the relevant style sheet with an admin request (who has to nudge them twice). Ignoring the link accessibility, I think right now the border for section headers on the blue side and TFP aren't great, and the TFP header background is too bright. Also, bullets aren't visible but that's going to be fixed in the next deployment. Izno (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

One of the tools that's essential for my main page work is User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js (documentation) and it's important that with coloured backgrounds, this still works. Schwede66 00:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Not directly relevant to this section, but if you want to ensure that looks some reasonable way, you should discuss with Anomie. All the link colors are the default here. Izno (talk) 01:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Finally. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 14:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of the literal SEAOFBLUE on the right side, maybe the colors need to be a bit muted (especially for the background)? Sohom (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Happy to implement suggestions. I thought it was good enough. Izno (talk) 20:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@Izno I've created a alternate colorscheme (it's effectively the same colors, but very very muted) at Template:TemplateStyles sandbox/Sohom Datta/styles.css, let me know if that works. Sohom (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

The homepage updates look like they're coming along really well. It's great to see all those bright white outlines gone. If it would be helpful, I could help out with a design and send the spec to you for implementation. :-) JScherer-WMF (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be helpful. Our current "featured list pink" is uh... iiiinteresting. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 02:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok! I'd love to help. I filed a ticket on the web backlog to continue the discussion about design specifics so as to not clutter this space. I'd love to hear more about folks' goals for a design—a design brief, essentially. Thanks! JScherer-WMF (talk) 15:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Picture of how the page should look

Per above. Please replace the contents of WP:Main Page/styles.css with Template:TemplateStyles sandbox/Sohom Datta/styles.css. Thanks. Sohom (talk) 23:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Did this a couple hours ago. Izno (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah shoot, looks like I did not WP:BYPASS :( Sohom (talk) 23:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Will this dark mode work in Monobook, or is it only for Vector? Modest Genius ^talk 14:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Only Vector and Minerva (the mobile skin). Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 14:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Only Vector22 right? Is is supposed to come to Vector legacy? Sohom (talk) 14:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Only Vector 2022. Izno (talk) 21:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Changing the 'Did you know...' section title

I have notice that in the did you know section all bullet points start with '...that', and I personally think that the 'that should be moved to the section title, making the title 'Did you know that...' and remove the 'that's from the bullet points, streamlining the page by a slight bit and making things a tad bit less redundant. Gantnitsa (talk) 16:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe, but first of all, four-letter abbreviations which lack the potential to double as easy-to-pronounce acronyms are awkward at best. There's also the issue of the need for consensus-building as to how to handle it in the uncommon-but-far-from-unheard-of cases in which "that" would be less than ideal to serve as the otherwise-initial word of a hook. Again, while admittedly uncommon, it hardly seems unlikely to an extent in which consensus-building would be best addressed on a case-by-case basis. This proposal seems like a creepy, albeit well-intentioned solution in search of a problem. Joefromrandb (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

This is something to discuss at Wikipedia talk:Did you know. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 23:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

See this discussion in August 2020, which produced some consensus against this very proposal. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 15:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

header broken in monobook

2024-05-23 problems

Haven't been able to check this yet, possible WP:THURSDAY issue? In monobook, the page layout is broken now, see example - with the "welcome to wikipedia" being moved, a "," on a line by itself, bad font/size as well. — xaosflux ^Talk 09:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@Izno: just in case you are working on this via Wikipedia:Main Page/styles.css. — xaosflux ^Talk 09:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Fixed the comma break by moving the comma in to the h1 element; not seeing that causing breaks on vector or vector22. The h1 styling here seem to be the primary problem now. — xaosflux ^Talk 09:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Seems to be styles associated with the mw-heading1 div around that h1.. — xaosflux ^Talk 10:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm seeing the same issue - it looks very ugly. Thanks for looking into this! Modest Genius ^talk 11:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

The gap between Welcome to Wikipedia and "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." is too big on Monobook. The line at the top cuts off the bottom of the P. I suggest you do "Welcome to" in smaller letters at the top and then just Wikipedia in large. "Welcome" looks a bit silly being that big.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

• Getting these reset may be enough:

body.page-Main_Page #mw-heading1
border-bottom: none;
margin-bottom: none;
font-size: 100%;

— xaosflux ^Talk 12:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... font size fix first, waiting for sync. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done font size fixed in MediaWiki:Monobook.css; margin/border to do. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... border/margin - waiting for sync. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done I'm not sure I love these CSS hacks though. Suggestions for improvement (here or upstream) are more than welcome. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Specifically I'm not liking that the parser is building the ID from the content and including "," in the element id now. (That is the one thing that will affect all skins). — xaosflux ^Talk 13:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Xaosflux Fixing this in Monobook.css was not appropriate (fixing it in WP:Main Page/styles.css is sufficient), nor was I believe moving the comma necessary. The relevant change is phab:T363597. It will be coming to the other skins Soon so we will need to fix it for all skins. Please remove the Monobook.css styles and revert your main page change so we can fix this correctly. Monobook being broken for a day or two is not a reason to... hack. Izno (talk) 16:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)