User talk:Vinoir

Reverting[edit]

How did u do this? Did you type that in manually or you have a tool? If the former, you don't need to use that format: the only reason my reverts appear like that is because I have an admins-only rollback button (I can one-click revert). --kingboyk 18:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nifty bit of kit, that! I typed it in manually using your edit summary as a model (because it contains all the necessary info, concisely). If it's going to look like I've got unsanctioned reversion tools though, I take it I should rephrase such things in the future? --Vinoir 19:02, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't mean that - it's just rather a lot of typing if you're doing it manually :) You can use whatever form you like (and if, in due course, you want to be an admin - once you've shown your face around the project a bit more - I'd happily nominate you of course). Yes, it's pretty nifty. I have rollback, delete, view deleted pages, and page protection. Deletion is especially useful for reversing redirects (and I do such things as speedy deletion work sometimes), the other tools are kinda obvious... :)

You might want to look at PopUps which everyone can use and which I can hardly live without now. You get a one click revert (but it has to edit and save the page) and lots of other features... hover over a link and u can see the intro of the article, click straight through to the talk page/what links here/whatever etc etc. Almost as nifty as my extra buttons! --kingboyk 19:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Invaluable advice as always. Sounds fantastic, I shall investigate right now... --Vinoir 08:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't know how to edit your javascript file let me know and I'll do it for you. --kingboyk 08:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bump! --kingboyk 08:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is well nifty! You're tremendously helpful, thank you very much indeed! --Vinoir 02:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're using Firefox, you can right click within the Popups menu and select "open in new tab". That's how I navigate my watchlist - it's always open, and I can go straight to a diff, to history, talk page whatever, and have it open in a new tab. --kingboyk 09:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KLF FA[edit]

Hi. We have a detailed critique from a user called Tony. I'll volunteer to fix the redundant wikilinks (the biggest job) would you look at his other issues please? When they're done we can send him a note and ask him to look again, which seems to be how FA works. --kingboyk 08:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a very helpful list, is Tony's. I'm already on it actually, but I'll leave the wikilinks to you then. --Vinoir 09:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It'll do it in a tool called AWB which shows me the words which have multiple links. Still a boring job but a bit quicker than doing it in a browser. I'll have to do the crap links manually, so if you see any do remove them. (I'd suggest leaving some of the more complicated words such as those describing the modus operandi of the Illumnatus! characters; I've had to click on some of those myself as I didn't know what they meant :)) --kingboyk 09:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done the link cleaning and removed {{inuse}}. When you've finished what you're doing, perhaps you'd drop Tony a line on his talk page? I've replied to your message re the image on my talk page. --kingboyk 10:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, cheers for letting me know. I will sweep through The KLF for commas and then contact Tony. --Vinoir 10:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Returning to the subject of chart placings etc., here is a website address that might help you - http://www.lanet.lv/misc/charts/

Cheers, Derek R Bullamore 18:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article status for KLF. Well done to you and Kingboyk. What's next ?!

Thanks! Kingboyk has set up Wikipedia:WikiProject The KLF. I would like to see all the single and album articles become officially "good". There are a few more song/single articles to create. I would also like to see The KLF discography taken as far as it can go. There's some K Foundation articles to consider too. And there may be some point in creating a timeline. --Vinoir 09:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Derek R Bullamore 12:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the FA :) Deizio talk 15:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! It's a result. --Vinoir 00:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

45 and meanderings[edit]

Hey, if you're reading 45 don't forget to make a note of any quotations we can use (preferably with page numbers) in any of our articles. Book references look more professional than web links I think :)

My copy of 45 is packed away somewhere and has only been read once, because it's signed :P For some crazy reason one of the online retailers (AlphabetStreet, I think now defunct) had some copies signed by Bill at no extra cost. Needless to say I snapped one up.

That reminds me, for quite some time SoS magazine used to sell surplus copies of the original Manual for a fiver a piece! (Which doubly reminds me, about 5 years ago Selectadisc in Berwick St had a big stack of original IGUN CDs for £1.50, and my local record shop Badlands in Cheltenham unearthed a pile of Disco 2000 12"s in their stock room... I might even have one or two spares still lying around...) Now if only they'd find a stack of WTIL? Story CDs... --kingboyk 13:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. I've begun to shove them in (see for example, at the bottom of The KLF Main Article Rejects Club), and I will definitely be mentioning Richard Long, an artist into journeys and text art that Drummond admires - the continuity of The KLF typeface is relevant to this, for example. Disco 2000? That is surprising.

This FAC business is a bit of a surprise. There's still a little work to be done (adverts, journeys), but I'm reluctant to do much to the article given the circumstances. Still, it's going okay so far. I've e-mailed Ronnie Randall and am awaiting his reply with interest.

(hi, excuse the butt-in/edit but I AM actually the RONNIE RANDALL to whom you refer here... so whoever you are who says you are awaiting my response with interst, perhaps you might send the original query to me at ronnie.randall@gmail.com and tell me what you are asking me about?. I receiv an email from someone at Wikipedia well over a year ago - probably in late 2005, asking if my photo of Bill D and Jimmy C, which has been used as the illustration in the Wikipedia KLF article, can be used (it alreads being)... I objected, since the photo was originally stolen from me, initially by an Austrian label for use as the cover image of the 12inch of WHAT TIME IS LOVE - completely without my knowledge, in the 80's - which by amazing chance I saw in a 2nd hand shop in London maybe a year later (the only reason I knew about it). That image appears to have gone on and on being ripped off, while I never ever received any money from anywhere at all for taking it/doing the job, and even my old photo Agency - LFI - supposedly 'lost' the negatives - coincidentally just as I switched to a rival agency. So, on principle, I do not wish to see my copyright work being used by ANYONE whatsoever, in any form, except in my personal portfolio. I have responded to the initial email from Wikipedia lister three times over the 18 months or so - to date - since that communication, yet the photo remains up, and no response has ever been sent back to me with regard my opinion, objection to its use and continued concern. COMMUNICATION OVER AND OUT)

Hi Ronnie. Sorry about that. I really wasn't aware of your subsequent e-mails - I've not received them, strangely. The image to which I was referring in my original request has long gone from the pages of Wikipedia. It was the close shot of Bill in profile with Jimmy in a KLF top in the background. Nice shot, by the way, which is why we wanted to use it. That is the image that appears on the Austrian "What Time Is Love" 12". I respected your plight in that regard and the image was deleted. That was all less than a year a ago, amazingly, but it certainly seems longer!

The image currently being used on the page The KLF is the "Why Sheep?" photograph that appears in the inner sleeve of The KLF's "The White Room" LP. If you happen to be the owner of "Why Sheep?" too, then if you'll please confirm this I'll seek guidance on the next steps. --Vinoir 17:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A case for the personnel going in The KLF discography is that it is from the sleevenotes and labels that we get much of our personnel info. If we mentioned that, then the list would surely not seem out of place. --Vinoir 13:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, OrphanBot. That's fine. --Vinoir 16:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

Gosh. Thank you very much for the 'award'. It left me a bit speechless to be honest - so the wife is not complaining either !

Best Wishes, as ever.

Derek R Bullamore 15:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, fella. --Vinoir 19:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Things move fast round here...[edit]

--kingboyk 04:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Illuminatus![edit]

Didn't you say you haven't read Illuminatus!. For a guy who hasn't read the trilogy you sure know a lot about it! Perhaps I'm going mad, or perhaps you've been swotting up? :) --kingboyk 15:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I swotted. :-) All for the cause. I expect I'll read it one day though. :-| I'm off camping until Monday, trying to find my copy of Wild Highway to take with me. Have a good weekend mate. --Vinoir 16:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lucky you! Enjoy. (Oh and let me know how Wild Highway is, I haven't got round to buying that one yet). --kingboyk 16:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BOPP'D![edit]

Steve has bopped you on the top with a mop! Bops promote not only WikiLove, but also steady loss of brain cells! Hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the Moppage by bopping someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, and help the chief Mop achieve his goal of world domination. And to spread the Moppage, just use {{subst:User:Master of Puppets/Bop|<you>}} replacing <you> with your username. Happy editing! kingboyk 17:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's a nice start to the day. :-) --Vinoir 10:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, but you haven't bopped anyone else yet! --kingboyk 18:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall, all in good time... :) --Vinoir 18:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel bad to say it mate, but according to the awards gallery only admins are authorised to "bop", as it were. I think I'll have to either bop to "Whitney" or subvert the system, and in the meantime find an alternative expression of Wikilove to pass on! --Vinoir 20:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admins only?! There was no mention of getting "bop priveledges" when I underwent my RFA! Why isn't this advertised?! --kingboyk 10:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Fuck the Millennium/archive1[edit]

For your watchlist, in case you've not noticed. One minor comment so far. --kingboyk 14:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, so it's started! Thanks for the shout. --Vinoir 14:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Check your email too, btw. --kingboyk 17:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful, many thanks old fruit. I feel that we're starting to make ground now. --Vinoir 10:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still alive?[edit]

I sure hope so, as there's work to be done! :P Seriously, I hope you're OK. --kingboyk 10:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you're not coming back to Wikipedia, please drop me an email saying you're alright. It was terrific working with you and I'm now very worried that something has happened to you. --kingboyk 20:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello mate. Sorry to cause such alarm with the disappearing trick, I didn't mean it to be so sudden. I'm fine actually - let's just say I had to abandon the palpable greater good of Wikipedia and KLF (with its strangely addictive allure) in order to meet many immediate responsibilities. I can say with no exageration that our creative work together was most richly rewarding, and the work was wholly liberating and pivotal for me. For this I owe you heartfelt thanks for the companionship. My ability to attend to the project is at the mercy of that most precious of resources: time. In the meantime the stewardship of the good ship WP:KLF remains solely in your able hands, old bean. :-) --Vinoir 17:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grr... I thought you were dead! Well, good to know that you're not :), and please pop in whenever you have a chance. FTM is at FA review and I think it will pass. The discography didn't make it. Thanks for the good times and hopefully see you around! --kingboyk 17:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's this?![edit]

		The Justified and Ancient Barnstar
		I Martin, award you this barnstar for your tireless work on articles pertaining to The KLF! Martin Hinks 19:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one[edit]

Hello fella, just thought I'd pop by to congratulate you on your continued successes with the project. Two more FACs and a DYK? entry, to say nothing of a relatively prestigious award for which we received no official credit! Take care dude. --Vinoir 15:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely to hear from you man! I hope you'll be back some time; in the meantime you take care too. --kingboyk 19:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC) PS Yes, going OK. Have started to pull the individual Bill & Jim articles into shape; next FA target might be Chill Out.[reply]

The Orb[edit]

If you ever have a spare moment and fancy a read, take a look at The Orb's ever improving article. I think I can say with some certainty that the improvements have been inspired by our work on The KLF, and I'm fairly certain Mr Cauty will soon have 2 of his bands at FA :)

Anyrode, the guy who has done most of the recent work on The Orb suggested making Chill Out the next WP:KLF FA candidate. I'm up for that, and we can borrow material from The Orb articles and beef up Jimmy Cauty's ambient section at the same time.

Hopefully the long winter nights will have got you indoors and back on wiki and you can help out? ;)

In the meantime I'm working on Paul McCartney in an attempt to get it to FA. --kingboyk 14:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings friend![edit]

Hi Vinoir, Good to see you're back - strangely we removed our wikibreak notices around the same time :)

Are you planning to do any KLF related editing and if so what do you have in mind? There's still several articles which aren't too far away from promotion.

Anyway, mainly here just to say how pleased I am to see you - you were sorely missed. --kingboyk 12:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Ello fella, and many thanks for the warm welcome. :-) Hope you're keeping well.

I'm primarily stirred by the potential activity that might be needed on WP:KLF during March as a result of The KLF's imminent front page appearance. I'm also feeling quite inclined to resume some KLF editing here and there - we'll see. Certainly I'm in the process of re-acquainting myself with the project's current state, and I think that The White Room, 'Chill Out and "3 a.m. Eternal" would ideally be in somewhat better shape on 9 March. Other things that might be on the cards include taking a look at articles concerning K Foundation activities, and weighing up how easy/hard it is to get key singles such as "Justified and Ancient" and "What Time Is Love?" the FA status. --Vinoir 12:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I guess I'd better ensure I'm available on 9th March to check edits and answer questions. I've no idea how much activity a front page article gets but with Wikipedia's popularity I imagine quite a lot!

Although old, the above message about The Orb and Chill Out is still relevant, although I imagine you're aware by now of the great strides the Orb article has taken and the material available. --kingboyk 12:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've no idea what to expect either. The Orb has indeed been transformed, which is great. Chill Out has been well on the way to FA standard for a while in my opinion, and it'd be smart to go the distance with it. --Vinoir 13:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a new feature you might not be aware of: the ability to "undo" an edit no matter how old it is. If you find a diff with a bad edit, you can click Undo rather than having to undo the changes manually. Of course this is only possible if Mediawiki is able to undo it cleanly, i.e. no future edits conflict with it. Handy feature though. --kingboyk 15:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for letting me know - I'll be sure to investigate it. --Vinoir 15:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes[edit]

Bedlam. I had no idea it would be this busy!

There's so many edits, some we'll want to keep and some we won't, that I propose just reverting vandalism and obvious crud when I spot it, and we can cleanup later.--kingboyk 09:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed! I'm at work, but will do what I can today. --Vinoir 10:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you guys are having fun! Congrats on The KLF making the front page as a FA!!! well done! ++Lar: t/c 15:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Lar. Yes, it's good to see it out the front. --Vinoir 15:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to know something shocking?[edit]

It would seem you've never edited Bill Drummond!!! How can that be?! --kingboyk 14:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have I not?! Awestruck, I expect. :-) Nah, not really. The Bill and Jimmy articles seemed too wide open for me to get a handle on when I was doing lots of editing. I meant to mention sooner, actually, that they've come on tremendously in the interim: well done! Nevertheless, I'm remedy the "never" thing right now. :)--Vinoir 18:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A humble comma. It's good stuff, and I particularly like "the man who went for Araldite". That's hilarious! --Vinoir 18:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha, a comma! Thanks for your contribution, another barnstar is on it's way :) --kingboyk 18:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:KLF[edit]

...is mentioned at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_reform#Small_WikiProjects. You may or may not want to contribute to the debate, not that we get mentioned in a bad way (on the contrary) but because you might have some bright ideas about the issues being discussed (making WikiProjects more effective and reducing their number, basically). --kingboyk 00:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look and a think but unfortunately only tumbleweeds passed through my brain. I will bear it in mind though and if anything presents itself I won't keep it to myself. --Vinoir 18:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

On 19 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Magnificent, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 03:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When I added it to the update, I had to cut it down a bit so nobody objected - usually 2-3 sentences are how long DYKs are. Hope you didn't mind :) LuciferMorgan 16:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay - thanks. I was going by the size of the Justified and Ancient DYK entry, but I was fully prepared to trim if required. :) --Vinoir 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FA Barnstar[edit]

		The Featured Article Medal
		The Featured Article Medal may be awarded to an editor who makes great contributions to three or more articles that have a Featured Article status. That would be you then, my good sir. --kingboyk 16:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Woah! That feels good. Thanks, kingboyk - participating to the two causes of Wikipedia and KLF Awareness is honour enough, but this is nonetheless triffic! --Vinoir 17:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WT:KLF[edit]

Hi Vinoir, I've posted 2 messages on the project talk page which might interest you (one of which, re The Orb, is a spillover from my talk page). --kingboyk 10:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chill Out[edit]

Hi Vinoir, Do you think you might work on a Context section for Chill Out and have a look at the todo list? There's possibly referenced material we can borrow from Ambient house and The Orb. I'm trusting your recent consigment has got you in the mood? :)

I was planning to work on KLF articles but I have a headache, so instead of writing new content I might look through remaining sources or find something to send to peer review. --kingboyk 17:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's again something I've looked at and thought about recently. It'll be a challenge but a challenge is good, yes, and the article is surely close to FA. That said, I have a couple of issues with the current layout of the article that I'll verbalise on the talk page. --Vinoir 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Would you also please look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/K Foundation? Not only would fresh eyes be good for the article, I'm a bit tied up with a Beatles-related FAC :) --kingboyk 20:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC) PS I hope the Konsignment met with your satisfaction?[reply]

It certainly did, thanks very much. There's a lot to take in, isn't there? Pleasure to be hearing some of this stuff for the first time. :) --81.131.28.229 22:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Sorry some of it is lo-res, but it's better than nothing. I assume you checked all items in the konsigment and they read correctly? --kingboyk 19:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And Talk:The_Magnificent#References :P --kingboyk 19:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And Talk:Whitney_Joins_The_JAMs#Is_it_ready_for_FAC.3F_Answer_-_99.25ish!!! Taking all this on board, we ought to be looking at several more FA(C)s and a GA, we just need to get stuck into it. LuciferMorgan thinks "Whitney..." is nearly FA ready, and The Magnificent (which I have on GAC, but which has received a critical response) nearly GA. --kingboyk 20:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Magnificent[edit]

Congratulations! LuciferMorgan 19:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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