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Interesting... I never heard it called "Vinish" before.
I thought cà rem was Vietnamese for "ice cream" (usually shortened as kem), and was based on the French word "crème". In addition, hon-đa is often pronounced hôn-đa.
In what way is hon đa a borrowing from English if it comes from the Japanese Honda? I suggest it be removed from the list. chery 19:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Vietnamese English? Or a moment of aberration in Wikipedia's history?
The examples "cà rem", "ga", "phôn", "á'lô, are only a few among hundreds of words derived definitely from French during the French colonial rule in Vietnam. Not only I, a native speaker of Vietnamese, but the rest of the Vietnamese people have never called them derivations from English. Moreover, the example "á lô" by no means correct spelling and by no means a correct exclamation, it must be "a lô".
What I have to affirmed is that all examples of the so-called "Vietnamese English" are explicitly Vietnamese loan words from French, NOT a dialect of English, as Vietnamese is NOT a dialect of English.
It is incredible why such a mistake in basic knowledge of Vietnamese culture - this article, has existed for such a long time without being seriously discussed as other pages or rewritten, or deleted.
Borrowing is not code-switching
The lexical items discussed on this page are examples of loan word borrowing, not code-switching. The lead section will need to be edited to reflect this. In addition, the article currently cites no reliable sources. I am not editing the lead section at this time, because I don't know of any reliable sources documenting this language variety under any name. Cnilep (talk) 00:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Seriously needs citations, proofs, etc.
This article is full of "caca de toro!" And giving 6 (count them, 6) lousy examples is far from convincing, let alone meeting any encyclopedic requirements.
Given the fact that French Indochina last for nearly 100 years in Vietnam, 3 of the examples can be explained as follows:
- rađiô: from French "radio";
- xì căng đan: from French "scandale", not English "scandal"; and
- sốc: from French "choc", not necessary English "shock"
That leaves only the dubious, and still un-cited, mát/mad conjecture!!!
Time for deletion?