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Wrong or fabricated references. Recommend to remove sentence[edit]

Section 'History and Tradition'

"However, the silver frame was placed on the Black Stone to secure the fragments, after the original stone was broken.[31][32]"

I have checked both references 31 and 32

31 Burke, John G. (1991). Cosmic Debris: Meteorites in History. University of California Press. p. 222. ISBN 978-0-520-07396-8.
32 Hassan, Ashraf (1991). Cenap Çakmak (ed.). Islam: A Worldwide Encyclopedia [4 volumes]. ABC-CLIO. p. 262. ISBN 978-1-61-069217-5.

the statement made is firstly not discussed in the 2 books referenced (Hassan Ashraf's book is available on google books check page 262). Furthermore such a statement does not represent a majority view of scholars even if it was mentioned in some source (wrong representation).

In the interest of an honest representation of the matter at hand I recommend deletion of this unfounded/unreferenced statement. Alernatively a new section should be written to discuss the scholarly views on the framing of the black stone plus maybe architectural aspects of the Kaaba and its embedded artefacts.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.143.75 (talkcontribs) 11:04, May 29, 2020 (UTC)

Aslam o laikum! Please Write P.B.U.H (Peace be upon him) With Holy Prophet's name.....it is a humble request![edit]

It a humble request! Good luck! 119.73.119.42 (talk) 21:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Kindly refer to MOS:MUHAMMAD for that. Thanks.The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Black Stone a pallasite?[edit]

Scientific origins section says: "It has been described variously as basalt stone, an agate, a piece of natural glass or—most popularly—a stony meteorite."

Appearance of the Black Stone section says: "... a pitch-black exterior and a silver-grey, fine-grained interior in which tiny cubes of a bottle-green material were embedded..."

This may be covered in more depth in Ref. 2, if someone has access to that book. The description seems consistent with a stony-iron Pallasite. Cteno (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the "ancient" building[edit]

Ancient history is refering mostly to times before 500 AD (476,565 etc) 1. Where is reliable source of this building in this times? 2. It was rebuild multiple times so can we say it realy is "ancient"? 2A02:A310:C043:2D00:B11A:E565:3D82:2B73 (talk) 05:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was Prophet Abraham who placed it.[edit]

According to Islam, it is placed there By Prophet Abraham AS, Jibreel (Gabriel) brought it from heaven directly to Abraham who built the Kaaba. 69.94.41.101 (talk) 12:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024[edit]

Remove reference 36 that the Black Stone is "thought to be a reference to Allat", one person's opinion and thoughts (even if written in a book) cannot be a generalized opinion or facts, especially when it comes to God's miracles, like the Black Stone. "the Black Stone is sacred to Muslims, it should not be equated with Allat, which is an idol of pre-Islamic times." Scholarforpeace (talk) 21:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2024[edit]

Kindly update the image where "Prophet Muhammad PBUH" is illustrated and put a flash on the face instead of imaginary image. Thank you. MFarooqi (talk) 15:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: As the notice on the top of the talk page says, Attention: If you are here to talk about removing images of Muhammad from Wikipedia articles, please read this article carefully: Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam/Images of Muhammad. Wikipedia is not censored. Thanks. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adam and Eve: Please remove this passage and its citation[edit]

The citation for the following "Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Jannah to show Adam and Eve where to build an altar, which became the first temple on Earth" (Muhammad, Martin Lings, Chapter 1. The House of God) does not contain any reference to this story.

https://archive.org/details/muhammad_martin_lings_201911/page/n3/mode/2up?q=stone

130.44.167.72 (talk) 02:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]