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two r's in Skagerrak[edit]

Can someone please explain the difference or what is right (and why) between skagerrak and skagerak (one or two r's) Gorm 15:44, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi Gorm, it seems late for a reply now, but skagen-rak assimilates to 2 r's.Dave 20:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dpv and the rubble[edit]

Hello dpv. I just encountered you in Skagen. Harasser, hey? Very funny. I bet you are Danish. As you seem engaged in legitimate editing I assume you are not a vandal. Well, I'm leaving it because I have no good reason to dispute it. What occurs to me though is that your derivation is Skagen-centered. A resident of Skagen might see it that way but what would a mariner care for that? Also your derivation smacks of social struggle from the nobleman's point of view but most sailors I doubt were noble and in any case the harassed if they were noble would want to deny any such thing. They liked to stick their heads in the sand (most of them). So, I would say, it is not a strong derivation but perhaps should not be excluded on that account.

I suppose you might argue that because Denmark ruled Scandinavia for so long the word ought to be Danish. As a point of information, do you know anything about the history of the word? When first used and how, etc.? It seems as though there ought to be an etymological dictionary of Danish place names. That doesn't guarantee their etymologies are going to be any better, but somebody ought to do more research to see if more light is available.Dave 20:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

Skagerrak is an assimilation of Skagen-rak, named after Skagen, the northernmost tip of Jutland. There is no evidence of the name in ancient sources.

Rak is identical to Swedish rak (pronounced rawk), "straight"; i.e., Skagerrak is a stretch of straight sailing in the vicinity of Skagen. The ultimate source is the Proto-Indo-European root *reg-, "straight". If the Danish word rak ("rabble, riff-raff") is used, Skagerrak could be interpreted as "the harasser of Skagen", referring to the changeable maritime weather conditions.

I don't mean to be trolling here but using words like "could be" without sources makes me think this is original research more than anything else. Also

Kattegat is ancient, preceding the north Germanic languages as the source of Latin Codanus, which appears to have meant the combined waterways of Skagerrak and Kattegat. Kattegat, however, is obscene and therefore taboo in polite society. Skagerrak must be a substitution at some time after the dissimilation of north Germanic.

Is Kattegat obscene? News to me and I am Danish and originally from Jutland! Please provide sources or I will rephrase it myself to something more appropriate.

I am tagging the name section as original research. MartinDK 17:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both Store Danske Encyklopædi and Politikens Nudansk Ordbog have a more serious interpretation, so I've replaced this section with something referenced. I've done the same at the article about Kattegat. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Dutch, though? It seems a Scandinavian origin is more likely. Mikkel (talk) 16:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

British chemical weapons dumping[edit]

No mention of the UK dumping obsolete and leaking chemical weapons off the coast of friendly/allied nations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.208.114 (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And the dumping of German seamines after WW II. The area was heavily mined. Both these topics needs good references though to be put up in the article. RhinoMind (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of animation[edit]

An animation was removed from this article by some editor who appears to be on a crusade against using animations. If animations are to be banned from Wikipedia, that would be a huge backward step, just one remove away from banning images altogether. If the editor believes their preference is the way to go, they should take the issue to the community and have the relevant guidelines changed. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Think of the pictures! That starts with "P", and that rhymes with "T", and that stands for Trouble! Hysteria aside, the editor did reference existing policy in his edit summary: Inline animations should be used sparingly; a static image with a link to the animation is preferred unless the animation has a very small file size. Personally, blurry animations of nondescript fish don't send that tingle up my leg -- I don't see that it contributes much to this article. --Kbh3rdtalk 21:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I just cut the same herring image from the other four articles it appeared in, after removing it from the herring article. I think it may be safe to cut the gallery entirely, here - we already list some species that can be found in the Skagerrak strait, I don't think the reader really needs to see what three of them look like. If we had a picture of the "Skaggerak cod" that the article specifically singles out as being adapted to the waters, though, that might be useful. --McGeddon (talk) 17:43, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and cut these images, and moved the Oslofjord image further up the article (replacing the nice but apparently uninformative black-and-white shot of open water). --McGeddon (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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