Talk:Symbiogenesis

Symbiogenesis has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: December 22, 2022. (Reviewed version).

Evolutionary biology High‑importance

	Evolutionary biology portal This article is part of WikiProject Evolutionary biology, an attempt at building a useful set of articles on evolutionary biology and its associated subfields such as population genetics, quantitative genetics, molecular evolution, phylogenetics, and evolutionary developmental biology. It is distinct from the WikiProject Tree of Life in that it attempts to cover patterns, process and theory rather than systematics and taxonomy. If you would like to participate, there are some suggestions on this page (see also Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ for more information) or visit WikiProject Evolutionary biologyEvolutionary biologyWikipedia:WikiProject Evolutionary biologyTemplate:WikiProject Evolutionary biologyEvolutionary biology articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Archives

1

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

{{section link|Eukaryote|Autogenous models}} The anchor (,Eukaryote,) is no longer available because it was deleted by a user before.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

Proposal: Origin of Eukaryotes Is Symbiosis of Not One But Two Bacteria and an Archeon[edit]

December 3, 2020, Purificación López-García and David Moreira submitted a paper, The Syntrophy hypothesis for the origin of eukaryotes revisited, published in Nature Microbiology, in which they proposed a symbiosis of two bacteria and an archeon as the origin of eukaryotes. I found their proposal utterly convincing and highly recommend a reading of it with a mind to including it in Wikipedia's article, Symbiogenesis.

Reference

Purificación López-García, David Moreira. The Syntrophy hypothesis for the origin of eukaryotes revisited. Nature Microbiology, 2020, 5 (5), pp.655-667. Retrieved from https://hal.science/hal-02988531/document 70.106.237.8 (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Added. The article needs further work now to distinguish current from historic hypotheses; but concepts specific to eukaryogenesis should really be in that article, rather than here which is covering symbiogenesis of all kinds and at all periods. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To add to what the Chap said, this article very much needs updating with recent findings regarding the Asgard archaea. In just the past few years, genomic studies of this archaean group have produced broad scientific consensus that eukaryotes originated from symbiosis between an Asgard archaean and an alphaproteobacteria. The alphaproteobacterial origin of mitochondria has been known a long time and is well-described here. The Asgard archaean origin of the eukaryotic cell is a recent discovery and is almost entirely absent. 2019 paper presents some of the central findings of this discovery. A2soup (talk) 23:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Um, I repeat: the origin of the Eukaryotes is Eukaryogenesis --- NOT the subject of this article. And my username is CC, thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]