Talk:William Kunstler

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Re: "Chicago Seven" or "Chicago Eight". The case started with eight defendents, but the trial of Bobby Seale was separated from the other seven and heard separately. For this reason, the main trial is now called the "Chicago Seven." At least, this is my understanding of the situation. --Jose Ramos 18:40, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

See the new article, Chicago Seven.


I regard JillandJack's category change to be inappropriate. As I stated on the talk page for the Lynne Stewart article, JillandJack is apparently a user whose previous account was banned. This user is apparently moving to have the "Radical lawyers" category removed. Rather than letting the category status depend on that outcome, the user has chosen to empty out several articles in violation of the request on the deletion proposal flag.

Kennedys[edit]

I have been criticized concerning remarks about Kunstler. What I said was quoted from Esquire magazine; I know little about him and until a contemporary attorney told me so, I didn't even know he had anything to do with the Chicago Seven. The quotes about him werre from the magazine. I assure my critics I am not searching for people to criticize but Kunstler appears to make it easy--the memories of JFK and Bobby Kennedy being what they are. Dougie monty (talk) 09:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that "it's in Esquire" doesn't really cut it for a BLP article. The sourcing needs to be better, especially considering how negatively those kinds of comments would be viewed. I didn't find a single Google hit for those quotes except for a Wikipedia mirror, and I see no evidence at all that they exist. If they're genuine, find better sourcing. Croctotheface (talk) 06:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My quote is directly from Bad News, an Esquirebook compiled in 1984, by the magazine's editors and designed by Muney Rivers; published by Avon Books (Esquire Press); ISBN 0-380-85712-X. The exact quote as given, on p. 88, is "I'm not entrirely upset by the Kennedy assassinations. In many ways, two of the most dangerous men in the country were eliminated." (To make matters worse, he made the statement to an audience in Dallas!) Dougie monty (talk) 05:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Though I doubt that the EXACT quote uses the word "entrirely", that kind of sourcing is more adequate. Previously, the quote had been somewhere between unsourced and poorly sourced. Croctotheface (talk) 05:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed uncited material[edit]

I have yet to find sources to verify/establish the importance of the following, but preserve them here for the ease of future editors who wish to. Savidan 21:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He also defended Thomas Wansley in Virginia in the early 1960s.

He later wrote, in his book Trials and Tribulations a moving poem about St. Augustine and the lessons learned there. His early autobiography, Deep in My Heart is an important source book for the history of the movement.

"Two authors and three Sioux were called ... shocking the prosecution.[47]" Really? "shocking the prosecution"? I don't the prosecution was "shocked"... maybe we should rephrase that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.99.172.89 (talk) 12:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fountain Valley Five[edit]

Does anyone know about his defense of the Fountain Valley Five, who were accused of killing eight people in 1972 in St. Croix, US Virgin Islands? According to this site it was a pretty big thing at the time, with international coverage and black vs. white implications. Seems like it ought to be in our article on Kunstler (and maybe have its own page as well). Duoduoduo (talk) 21:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

   I was a college activist in NYC during those days. Part of my daily activity was reading radical newspapers. I don't know how the Village Voice
   would be characterized today. My goal was law school so I paid particular attention to Kuntsler. I can't recall this case at all. If there was major
   coverage, I think I would recall. In fact, I saw Kuntsler at trial during the Rap Brown trial and worked across from him in the law library. No
   clue. Can you provide a link to the info? If it happened, I need to see a medical doctor. 75Janice (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)75Jsanice18:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)75Janice (talk)[reply]