Category talk:Composers by nationality

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  • (0) Category:Composers_by_nationality -> Obsolete; now also sorted by genre, e.g. Category:Classical composers by nationality -- Beland 05:20, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Sounds like it would make a great parent for all of those genre by nationality subcategories. Postdlf 06:20, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Should be a parent fot all the genre by nationality categories. —AlanBarrett 06:48, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • See Category talk:Musical compositions: normally it's rather "CLASSICAL composers by nationality" that should go: "classical composers" has more borderline issues (e.g. "classical music" does not equal "music of the classical music era", etc..., etc...) than "composers". Other examples: Andrew Lloyd Webber definitely composed Operas, so he should be in category:opera composers, but does that make him a "classical" composer? I wouldn't want to decide on that one... Is Frank Zappa a "classical composer" or even a "20th century classical composer", because he "composed" Bob in Dacron and Strictly genteel? Furthermore I refuse to categorize Erik Satie either as a Classical composer, or worse a 20th century classical composer (not to mention Romantic composer): see "Business Card" approach on wikipedia:categorization of people: at least he had composer (for some time) on his business card, that's the only non-problematic approach I see for this difficult to classify composer. So I would suggest to forget about the idea of "classical" composers as opposed to ...(what exactly?)... kind of composers, and in any case when starting to group composers by nationality. I.e. "classical composers" category can maybe have a limited use for some composers up to late 20th century (when for most composers boundaries become extremely fuzzy whether or not they are still "classical"), but when you start to classify by "nationality" you better stop classifying by "genre" or "style": wikipedia is rather about having multiple entrances to a field of knowledge: I see "who is composer?" as a field of knowledge, to be approached either by "style" or by "nationality", if one classifies by both at the same time the maze might get too narrow to have further significance. --Francis Schonken 14:51, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep, as super category for classical composers by nationality and whichever other composers by nationality. Schonken's above concerns are all fine and dandy, but the fact is that a category full of classical composers is a list of classical composers and it is a lie to not label it as such. Hyacinth 22:07, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC). In practice: Composer = classical composer. Hyacinth 00:30, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)