Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zompist.com

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of the page entitled Zompist.com.

This page is kept as an historic record.

The result of the debate was to keep.

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Obscure website. --Wik 20:21, May 6, 2004 (UTC)

• Keep. This website is not obscure. The Language Construction Kit, for example, is a very important and popular document in the conlanging community. -Branddobbe 20:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
  • Does the writer of the article get a vote? The above user wrote it, anyway. I feel this needs to be said. --bodnotbod 21:18, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
    • Why wouldn't I? I don't get a chance to defend it? -Branddobbe 21:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
      • I see no problem for the writer to add his vote or comment here. About the page: I haven't made up my mind yet -- Chris 73 | Talk 22:46, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
        • That's OK. I wasn't saying it shouldn't happen. Just wanted to know what the rule was. --bodnotbod 23:07, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
          • Should be fine, after all, it isn't 'their' article anyway. Mark Richards 23:09, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

• OK, I tried to find value in the site, but until Mr. Rosenfelder becomes a famous creator of conlangs, a nationally syndicated columnist, or president of his own micronation, this is vanity. Delete. Alcarillo 20:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Probably uneccessary to post, that seems to be the majority position already. But I just wanted say, Dude! Mr. Rosenfelder is a famous creator of conlangs. His languages stand as some of the very best known fictional languages other than those that have been commercially published by major publishers. The most straight forward quantification of this is at LangMaker's Top 100. I vote for artistic accomplishment over delusions of grandeur (micronations) any day of the week. :Aidan 00:23, 2004 May 8 (UTC)
• Keep. If you'll notice Zompist's hit-count page, the front page had 132,216 in 2002 and the Language Construction Kit had 68,631. Admittedly, you're probably not going to see it on Alexa.com, but I'd call that a significant figure, especially when you consider that the content isn't really aiming for a very wide audience. In addition, the data available is only from 2000 to 2002; judging from the upward trend, the hit-counts likely have been and are on the rise. Also, as Branddobbe said, the Language Construction Kit, written by Rosenfelder and hosted at Zompist, is a very well-known and respected guide to constructing languages among the Internet conlanging community. -- Djinn112 22:46, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
• Comment: A mention in Britain's Sunday Times [1] - last para. --bodnotbod 23:15, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, seems fairly significant. Everyking 23:24, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. It's probably the largest number collection on earth. - Mustafaa 00:44, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. -Sean 01:03, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Rhymeless 01:04, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Hosts the Language Construction Kit, which is notable. Besides, the dude who runs Zompist actually has a grip on reality, instead of claiming his living room as a micronation. ;) --Wirehead 19:08, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. There is no point on having articles on web pages when we can simply link to them. silsor 20:14, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • We have articles on dozens of webpages already. -Branddobbe 20:20, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. -Seth Mahoney 22:01, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
• We could also redirect to an article on Mark Rosenfelder. -Seth Mahoney 17:54, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
• Delete, obscure. Andris 16:29, May 9, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep it, I guess. DS 02:38, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

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