Talk:Victoria de los Ángeles

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Renaming[edit]

Note to user Friviere: With all due respect, I have undone your renaming of this page. This singer is known in the music world as "Victoria de los Ángeles" and that is how we should refer to her in conformance with Wikipedia naming principles. However, I have added the Catalan version of her name in the first sentence and there is of course a redirect from Victòria dels Àngels. This may not be ideal from your point of view but I hope that it is acceptable. -- Viajero 20:26, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot agree[edit]

But I will try to investigate it.--Friviere 11:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Done.--Friviere 15:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think that this is a very sensible and reasonable compromise. Not only was the singer known to the musical world (and many outside it) as 'Victoria de los Ángeles' (or 'Victoria de los Angeles') but that is also how she chose to 'market' herself (or how she was 'marketed' outside Catalonia). ChristopherW, 29 May 2006

Her recording with Villa-Lobos[edit]

Is somebody able to situate her recording with Villa-Lobos and the Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Française in 1957? It's an important recording of the Bachianas No. 5. --Leonardo T. de Oliveira 21:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's available on EMI Références and also on EMI's Great Recordings of the Century series, probably among others. Ondewelle18 May 2008

Victoria de los Ángeles[edit]

It is not only that she chose to "market" herself as Victoria de los Ángeles, but that there ISN'T the slightest evidence that she EVER called herself by a Catalan version of this name, or that anybody except Catalan separatists ever called her thus. WHY should these people be allowed to impose their invented reality on the rest of the world?? Although the usually seen birth surnames of Gómez Cima are given in Wikipedia's article, EMI's notes to their newest re-issue of her recording of Spanish Zarzuela songs states that her authentic surnames were actually López García. Neither Gómez Cima nor López García are Catalan surnames. Her parents were both from Málaga, in the Southern Spanish region of Andalusia. And she looked, of course, every inch an Andalusian! Tantris 02:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accent grave?[edit]

I've noticed inconsistencies in the accent on the "A" in "Angeles." Does anyone know which it should be? - Casadesus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casadesus (talkcontribs) 03:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the Spanish version of her name (the one that she herself used), the accent on the A would be like an acute accent in French — Á. However, the accent was often not placed on the letter, even in official and quasi-official places such as on her own records, a biography approved by her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.85.147 (talk) 22:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The word "ángeles" does have an accent. However, in Spanish, capital letters are written without accents. In this case it should be "Angeles". In the case of Victoria de los Angeles she, or her PR people, could have decided to use the accent for marketing purposes.(by ncl) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nclemoine (talkcontribs) 01:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that she, or her marketing people, did decide to use the accent because it is not usually written that way. I think the article would be better without it, to be honest, although this is a small point. 5 May 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.85.147 (talk) 16:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria de los Angeles biography missing reference[edit]

There is a You Tube video in which the singer coments on her career. The address is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aa1UArVHKA&feature=channel_page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.175.94.157 (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality[edit]

I would like to remind editors that claims of prestige, world greatness etc, even when sourced, are neither neutral nor objective, but highly unencyclopedic. Last change by 83.217.172.37 (17:27, 3 July 2009) is not acceptable. Please refrain from making such changes. --Karljoos (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gomez Cima?[edit]

Some refs say her birth name was Victoria Gomez Cima, to a father named Bernardo Lopez Gomez. We say something quite different. What's the story? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 05:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]