Talk:Ardagh Hoard

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Any way to get this image of the Ardagh Chalice into Wikipedia? Wetman 04:59, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Who ever said it was the Cauldron of Rebirth? Where did that come from? That's bull. MaryJones

Author Maurice Cotterell said he is positive that the Celtic cup known s the Ardagh Chalice (kept in the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin) is the Holy Grail and outlined how it was buried with Joseph of Arimathaea and then discovered by King Arthur in the 5th century. It was Arthur who engraved the names of the 12 disciples on it along with two dragons, claimed Cotterell, who noted the same dragon marks are carved into the Amazing Lid of Palenque from the resting place of Lord Pacal of the Maya (whom he believes to be the reincarnation of Jesus).

Arthur broke the code of the Tara Brooch, a sister artifact to the Chalice, which led to his famed pulling of the sword and subsequent realization that he'd found the Holy Grail, Cotterell explained.

mauricecotterell.com

Books

Jesus, King Arthur, and the Journey of the Grail

The Mayan Prophecies: Unlocking the Secrets of a Lost Civilization

The Terracotta Warriors

!!!! Cotterell's work is, at best, parahistorical. The Ardagh Chalice is a medieval Irish liturgical vessel, not the Holy Grail. Even if we accept that the historical Jesus had a Last Supper as described in the gospels, and if we accept that the cup used was then given to Joseph of Arimathea (a suggestion only found in high medieval literature), then you have to admit the design of the Ardagh Chalice is of the La Tène revival, not first century Palestine.

Even if we admit that Arthur existed (something debatable, but I'll play along), the chalice postdates him. And there is no evidence whatsoever that the chalice is at all related to the Tara Brooch, nor that Arthur would have ever come across these items.

This is really ridiculous. MaryJones 16:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation needed tag on the Cauldron bit, but I honestly think it should be deleted. Flowerpotman 01:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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