Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about body parts

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. Postdlf 04:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

List of songs about body parts

Come on. Rhobite 05:15, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep -- Wikipedia contains a lot worse. - Longhair | Talk 05:22, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete When a robber doesn't kill his victim we ought not to praise him because "bad guys could do a lot worse". Kevin Rector (talk) 05:27, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment -- the beauty of Wikipedia is that it won't steal from you, or attempt to harm you. You have the full right of way to steer clear of this article. Your analogy is flawed. - Longhair | Talk 08:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. It seems more like useless trivia to mention at a cocktail party than an encyclopedia. Zzyzx11 | Talk 05:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep – (Obviously, I started it) While it is bound to be generally vulgar, that is the nature of the songs. There are songs about non-sexual body parts. Bottom line, I think it is just as relavent as List of songs about masturbation and more so than List of Pearl Jam songs covered by others. —BenFrantzDale 05:32, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

You say just as relevant, I say just as useless. Tomato/Tomato let's call the whole thing off.Kevin Rector (talk) 05:36, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

• Come on indeed. It's articles like this take makes Wikipedia worthwhile. Keep.--Gene_poole 06:10, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not notable, trivial. Megan1967 08:26, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• DeleteXmarkX 08:35, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete There is no way in hell this list could possibly be comprehensive or objective enough to be useful.--KASchmidt 08:55, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Oy vey, again with the lists of songs. --Angr/_comhrá 10:51, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Another stupid list. Wile E. Heresiarch 13:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - I was thinking that I would go the other way if there was some way that the list could be limited to actual body parts instead of metaphorical body parts (i.e. excluding all those songs about broken hearts, which are not really about the blood-pumpung lump of flesh known as a heart)... but "songs about body parts" is not a particularly notable theme, nor is the list limited to notable songs. -- 8^D ^gab 14:15, 2005 Apr 26 (UTC)
  • Keep as clarified, refined and expanded. However, I contend that the AC/DC song, "Big Balls" is really just about large fancy parties. -- 8^D ^gab 03:40, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. I think I'm starting to like these lists. They're interesting. And I think they add an element of fun to the Wikipedia. I say we should keep these kinds of articles here to pull in otherwise disinterested potential editors so they can get their feet wet. — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Work} 14:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Shrug — This list is too short by far; it doesn't even include Hot Legs. — RJH 15:43, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It looks like Kappa fixed that omission. Give it time. The fact that humans write songs about pieces of themselves is interesting. If it doesn't grow much larger at a reasonable pace, then I'll stand corrected. —BenFrantzDale 16:06, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Shhh! Don't tell Everyking or he'll make it all about Pieces of Me. :) Seriously, keep. (Might have been a weak keep, if some admins didn't apparently count those as half a vote, which is not my intention.) Samaritan 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, he'll make a new article List of body parts mentioned in Pieces of Me ;-). I think I'm still undecided on this debate, but i'll be watching it.--DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:37, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Directly, the song mentions only the head, the face, and arms, but it also contains the phrases I hear you and I can hardly catch my breath, and it contains the word "bottom", but in the sense of being at the bottom of a long fall, rather than in the sense of being a person's bottom. I vote delete; not least because, despite the blurb at the top of the article, a lot of the songs aren't actually about body parts, they just mention them in the title (New Order's "Touched by the Hand of God" stands out in particular, not least because God doesn't have a body). This is Everything2 stuff, and I mean that in a good way.-Ashley Pomeroy 14:45, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

• Delete If somebody wishes to develop these retarded non-encyclopedic articles, they can do it on their user page. BTW, do only admin votes count? --Frenchman113 16:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • No, all registered users (at least, with credible edit histories who aren't counted as sockpuppets.) Samaritan 07:30, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Stevie's thinking. Kappa 15:50, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Meelar (talk) 20:25, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
• A list of songs about body parts that doesn't include the traditional children's song "Heads, Shoulders, Knees and Toes"? (I've added it). Oh, just thought "Hokey-Cokey" (or "Hokey-Pokey" I believe for the Americans? "left leg in" etc.) A fairly poor list then. Do we include a "list of songs in the first person" (not creating tempting link) in this list because "I" and "eye" are homonyms? Was tempted to keep this at first but I've finally convinced myself: weak Delete (I think). SteveW | Talk 20:56, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Listcruft. No way this could be made even remotely complete. --Carnildo 22:18, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • The same was probably said of sexual slang at an early point. :) — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Work} 23:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as per Kappa. Klonimus 06:39, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per Carnildo. Radiant_* 08:47, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Interesting, encyclopedic, and potentially useful. Lists of songs generally should be kept. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:36, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep; I think songs about body parts are encyclopedically notable; and also, I kinda like songs like those. --SuperDude 01:38, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Naughty boy.  :^P - Lucky 6.9 03:33, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. —Lowellian (talk) 07:41, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep muriel@pt 12:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as reasoned by others above. — Ливай | ☺ 05:02, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. as Zzyzx11 and others. Pavel Vozenilek 20:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Pointless listcruft, not helpful to readers. Clearly what wikipedia really needs is several thousand "List of songs about x" articles for all possible values of x. Quale 05:00, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Probably too hard to complete/maintain, and it's not necessary or particularly useful. If you want to read pointless song trivia, go to this site instead. --Idont Havaname 01:54, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - this is amusing trivia, but it is not a viable subcategory or alternate sorting method for songs. - Pioneer-12 09:10, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Useless. --Eleassar777 22:50, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Clarification

• Now that the page has grown, I see that yes, people like writing songs which fixate on body parts. However, the lack of clear criteria for exclusion was leading to an open-ended list. I've clarified those criteria and removed some songs that failed to pass. If the list remains ill-defined, then it doesn't belong here, but if it can solidify into a clear list, then I maintain my position. —BenFrantzDale 03:54, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Agreed. Keep if the criteria for inclusion are clearly stated. It is kind of fun! - Lucky 6.9 03:33, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• What, no Jim Stafford's "16 Little Red Noses and a Horse That Sweats?" Of course, the nature of this topic, as noted, is very plastic. You might as well do a comprehensive list of songs with cuss words in them, cross-referenced by severity of the swear. But then, when Bob Dylan said "goddamn" in 1964, it was a lot more scandalous that Ludicris dropping f-bombs every other word in 2005. So you'd have to take that into consideration as well. A thousand Wikipedians on a thousand computers could take a thousand years editing this topic and not see the end of it. The_Iconoclast 20:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If one were to want to do something like that, the correct approach would be to have a database of lyrics and query it. It would certainly be an interesting resource. —BenFrantzDale 21:58, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

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