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1537 - Pope Paul III declared, "Indians are human beings, with the qualities and faults of human beings."

commited suicide to evade a Senate-imposed death by flogging ?[edit]

First, was this Nero or his scribe ? Second, there should be another T: committed. -- 64.229.229.120 14:03, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's what our June 9 article claims. Nero doesn't mention it. I'll remove it. Zocky 14:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. -- 64.229.229.120 14:53, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Donald Duck[edit]

The Donald Duck photo is not freely-licensed, so can't be used on the main page. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-09 00:55

China and Vietnam[edit]

China can not give up something it doesn't have sovereignty over (nor claim sovereignty). What it gave up was its claim of suzerainty over Vietnam. DHN 21:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: James Oglethorpe (maintenance); William Jennings Bryan (maintenance)
Omitted: Congress of Vienna; Jackson's Valley Campaign; Bhumibol Adulyadej (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Dong Xoai
Included: Gaspée Affair (3rd appearance, last in 2009); Alexandra Palace (first appearance); Army–McCarthy hearings (first appearance)
Repeats: Nero (8th consecutive appearance, 15 total; was duplicated on October 10); Charles Kingsford Smith (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 23:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): 1972 Black Hills flood
Omitted: Nero; Gaspée Affair; Alexandra Palace; Army–McCarthy hearings
Included: James Oglethorpe (first appearance, rescued from Ineligible); Congress of Vienna (6th appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Brandy Station (first appearance; 150th anniversary); Secretariat (horse) (2nd appearance, last in 2004; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Charles Kingsford Smith (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:57, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: James Oglethorpe; Congress of Vienna; Battle of Brandy Station; Charles Kingsford Smith; Secretariat (horse)
Included: Mormon handcart pioneers (4th appearance, last in 2010); Bhumibol Adulyadej (8th appearance as blurb, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Army–McCarthy hearings (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 60th anniversary); Battle of Dong Xoai (4th appearance, last in 2011); Nadahan wedding bombing (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:57, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Congress of Vienna (maintenance); Alexandra Palace (maintenance)
Omitted: Mormon handcart pioneers; Bhumibol Adulyadej; Army–McCarthy hearings; Nadahan wedding bombing
Included: Athenian coup of 411 BC (first appearance); Gaspee Affair (4th appearance, last in 2012); Jackson's Valley Campaign (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Charles Kingsford Smith (6th appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Battle of Dong Xoai (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 19:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: William Jennings Bryan (maintenance)
Omitted: Gaspee Affair (ineligible—maintenance); Jackson's Valley Campaign; Charles Kingsford Smith; Battle of Dong Xoai
Included: Mormon handcart pioneers (5th appearance, last in 2014); Bulgarian coup d'état of 1923 (first appearance); Bhumibol Adulyadej (9th appearance as blurb, last in 2014; 70th anniversary); Secretariat (horse) (3rd appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Athenian coup of 411 BC (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: James Oglethorpe (maintenance); Bulgarian coup d'état of 1923 (maintenance)
Omitted: Columba (ineligible—maintenance); Mormon handcart pioneers; Bhumibol Adulyadej (ineligible—maintenance); Secretariat (horse)
Included: Gaspee Affair (5th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Charles Kingsford Smith (7th appearance, last in 2015); Army–McCarthy hearings (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Nadahan wedding bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Shahrbaraz (3rd appearance, last in 2017; normally appears on April 27); Susanna Paine (first appearance); Brian Williamson (first appearance)
Repeats: Athenian coup of 411 BC (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Deleted: Shahrbaraz (returned to April 27)
Moved to Ineligible: 1972 Black Hills flood (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Iain Banks
Omitted: Athenian coup of 411 BC; Gaspee Affair; Army–McCarthy hearings; Shahrbaraz; Susanna Paine; Brian Williamson
Included: Abbasid Revolution (first appearance); Simon de Colines (first appearance); Battle of Dong Xoai (6th appearance, last in 2015); Władysław IV Vasa (first appearance); Victoria Woodhull (2nd appearance, last in 2013; normally appears on May 10); Sonam Kapoor (first appearance)
Repeats: Charles Kingsford Smith (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total); Nadahan wedding bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pentecost[edit]

Whys is Pentecost not even mentioned? It is one of the biggest Christian holidays. Many minor holidays from other religions are constantly mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.24.162.16 (talk) 08:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because Pentecost § Liturgical celebration has an orange tag for maintenance, and per the rules, that makes it ineligible for inclusion. —howcheng {chat} 15:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Deleted: Carl Nielsen (moved to October 3, death anniversary)
Moved to Ineligible: Mormon handcart pioneers (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Doveton Sturdee
Omitted: Charles Kingsford Smith; Nadahan wedding bombing; Władysław IV Vasa; Victoria Woodhull; Sonam Kapoor
Included: William Jennings Bryan (2nd appearance, last in 2004); Tulle massacre (first appearance; 75th anniversary); Ambrogio Lorenzetti (first appearance); Jane Avril (first appearance); Chandrashekhar Agashe (first appearance)
Repeats: Abbasid Revolution (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Simon de Colines (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Battle of Đồng Xoài (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Natalie Portman
Omitted: Columba (ineligible—maintenance); Abbasid Revolution; William Jennings Bryan; Tulle massacre; Battle of Đồng Xoài; Ambrogio Lorenzetti; Jane Avril; Chandrashekhar Agashe
Included: Athenian coup of 411 BC (4th appearance, last in 2017); Mormon handcart pioneers (6th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Charles Kingsford Smith/Southern Cross (aircraft) (Smith: 9th appearnance, last in 2018; SC: first); Nadahan wedding bombing (4th appearance, last in 2018; 10th anniversary); Peter des Roches (first appearance); Doveton Sturdee (first appearance); Heather Mitts (first appearance)
Repeats: Simon de Colines (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 23:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): George Stephenson (maintenance); William Feiner (TFA for 2021-05-04); Emma Louisa Turner (TFA for 2021-06-09)
Omitted: Athenian coup of 411 BC; Simon de Colines; Mormon handcart pioneers; Charles Kingsford Smith/Southern Cross (aircraft); Nadahan wedding bombing; Peter des Roches; Doveton Sturdee; Heather Mitts
Included: Abbasid Revolution (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Gaspee Affair (6th appearance, last in 2017); Congress of Vienna (7th appearance, last in 2017; rescued from Ineligible); Tulle massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Kumanovo Agreement (first appearance); Władysław IV Vasa (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Jane Avril (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Natalie Portman (first appearance; 40th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 07:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Omitted: Abbasid Revolution; Congress of Vienna (ineligible—maintenance); Tulle massacre; Kumanovo Agreement; Władysław IV Vasa; Jane Avril; Natalie Portman
Included: Simon de Colines (4th appearance, last in 2020); Mormon handcart pioneers (7th appearance, last in 2020); Battle of Đồng Xoài (8th appearance, last in 2019); Nadahan wedding bombing (5th appearance, last in 2020); William Feiner (first appearance); Emma Louisa Turner (first appearance); Hein Eersel (first appearance; 100th anniversary)
Repeats: Gaspee Affair (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:39, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]