Talk:Stockholm syndrome

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"Theorized" condition[edit]

The first paragraph makes it clear that the existence of the condition is unknown/disputed. The first sentence should reflect this. "SS is a condition where..." implies "There exists a condition SS where...". It's unclear whether it exists. See Bertrand Russell's, "Hamlet was..." implies "There was a man named Hamlet who..." DenverCoder9 (talk) 01:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Verbal diarrhea syndrome[edit]

This article needs a machete taken to it, primarily to excise much or most of the hifalutin psychoanalytic doubletalk. And pardon me if I've missed it, but what source ties Fairbairn (who died in 1964) to the subject of this article? EEng 18:37, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless someone can find a reference that connects Fairbairn's theory to Stockholm syndrome I think that the whole section should be removed. It looks like textbook WP:OR; someone has read about a theory of children's attachment to their abuser and thought that is a similar mechanism as that in Stockholm syndrome. Sjö (talk) 10:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stockholm syndrome in real life / examples[edit]

It should be included in DSM IV by now due to the fact it is a proven psychological condition/problem whereby a victim becomes intimately connected to a captor/jailor (perfect example is Patricia Hearst or the Stockholm incident itself om Sweden, a bank robbery in Stockholm, in 1973. Four people were held hostage by the robbers for six days; when they were rescued, the hostages attempted to protect the perpetrators, with whom they had an amicable relationship.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Photolarry (talkcontribs) 08:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see nothing on the Patricia Hearst article suggesting she sympathised with her kidnappers and rapists once she escaped their physical control (i.e. she was coerced). The Stockholm syndrome page itself clearly says she was not acting by her own free will. As for the Stockholm/Olsson/Enmark incident, it was debunked by Allan Wade interviewing Kristin Enmark (cf criticism section). Wrt the DSM classification, that is covered in the criticism section as well. AFAICT there is no such thing as Stockholm syndrome as a psychological condition, which is why it's not in DSM. Yamaizai (talk) 20:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

bias[edit]

The overall Wiki article is clearly biased towards saying there is no such thing a Stockholm Syndrome and, if there is, it's 8% of less. It is also very selective in which cases and evidence it presents. APaul2021 (talk) 12:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. DS (talk) 16:38, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

lead[edit]

If the purpose of a lead is to accurately summarize the article, this one should state that Stockholm syndrome is a widely criticized theory with no acceptance in the scientific community. Instead this lead tries to convince you its real using dubious FBI statistics while the rest of the article is almost entirely criticism of the theory. Either the lead is wrong or the main body of the article is, but currently they are contradictory and the cited sources point into a very clear direction. jonas (talk) 10:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last sentence of the first paragraph: "in fact it is a "contested illness" due to doubts about the legitimacy of the condition"
How would you improve that? DS (talk) 16:22, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]