Talk:Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic

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POV Deletions[edit]

"However, overall, these contributions make a minor impact on the album. Ultimately, with its slick, plastic production and relatively unremarkable song-writing, the sound of the album is quite similar to 1998's poorly-received Newpower Soul."--Kilojake (talk) 02:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I'm MarioSoulTruthFan and I'll be reviewing this article in the next days. Do not make changes until I say so. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

  • How do you know when it recorded?
 Done Now sourced elsewhere in the article :).
  • Genre?
 Done
You should also add the "Soul" genre in the second source.
 Done I did so now Carbrera (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • "American recording artist Prince, under the unpronounceable "Love Symbol", as shown on the album cover". → If I remove the sentences with additional information it makes no sense. Re-write
 Done
  • "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material". → which album?
 Done
  • "completed a "sensual" cover of Crow's 1996 single "Everyday Is a Winding Road"". → not in the body of the article.
 Done
  • "the album was conceived as a return to mass markets after Prince spent several years without significant public attention." → same issue as previous
 Done
  • "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material." → one song in the body of the article, not the entire album.
 Done
  • ,achieved modest success, → bias, unless some reviewer as said that.
 Done
  • "peaking at number 63 on the Billboard Hot 100 and becoming the album's only charted song".→ peaked...became...
 Done

Recording and release[edit]

  • However, recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, and the entire project was abandoned. → However, as soon as the recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, the entire project was abandoned.
 Done
  • Name the studios after the cities and/or states.
 Done
  • and London, England, immediately following the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), released just three months prior. → and London, England, just after the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), three months prior.
 Done
  • See others links above for dates of release.
 Done
  • See one of the links I posted above for more information to add here.
 Done
  • Change the name to "Background and release" since now you have information on the artwork of the album.
 Done

Composition[edit]

  • "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic departs from the use of soul on The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale." → it does depart but not completly. So re-arrange that.
 Done Reworded. Carbrera (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and is his one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years" → and is one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years
 Done
  • "Tangerine" is a ballad that contains "savvy pop" elements, comparable to Prince's previous efforts → "savvy pop" elements are left to "So Far, So Pleased"; what do you mean with "comparable to Prince's previous efforts" it's not stated nothing like that in the article?
 Done
  • the track was produced to appeal to modern radio and the mainstream crowd. → this is not in the source provided.
 Done Removed.
  • "Segue II" is again a silent track, followed by promotional singles "Man'O'War" and "Baby Knows", the former of which containing "falsetto soul" and the latter featuring contributions from Crow, including her vocals and use of a harmonica. → wrong reference,the review is not on Discogs for sure, also remove that source.
 Done
  • You wave a couple of reviews in the CD universe reference use them, structuring them appropriately and according to individual references. For example: "Rolling Stone Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic review". United States: Rolling Stone. January 1, 2000: 57. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help) → wikilink everything properly.
 Done

Promotion[edit]

  • Unlike Prince's previous albums, he did not embark on a concert tour to promote Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic. → re-phrase
 Done
  • Internet movie database is not a reliable source, replace it.
 Done
  • Unlike his previous releases, the remix album was not made commercially available, so the album was also unable to chart. → needs source
 Done

Singles[edit]

  • "The remixes also included vocals from Eve". → source
 Done
  • remove the Discogs reference and replace it by any other.
 Done
  • "So Far, So Pleased", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani, and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Eve → "So Far, So Pleased" and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani and by Eve, respectively.
 Done
  • "Man'O'War" → link it
 Done

Critical reception[edit]

  • Remove from the Album ratings box the reviews that say positive, favorable etc, anyone can change that and sounds bias.
 Done
  • Link music critics → music journalism
 Done
  • the included collaborations → the collaborations
 Done
  • to a symbol." → to a symbol".
 Done
  • trying to recapture the spirit of '99." → same as previous
 Done
  • In the end of this GA review I believe you have at least more two reviews I added the links.
 Done

Commercial performance[edit]

  • A success on → Despite that, it was able to peak at number eight
 Done
  • Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs → Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Albums
 Done
  • unsuccessful → failed to achieve any notability
 Done

Track listing[edit]

  • All songs written and produced by Prince, except "Everyday Is a Winding Road", which was written by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian McLeod. → needs reference.
 Done

Credits and personnel[edit]

  • Mike Scott - guitar (on #3) → Mike Scott - guitar (3)
 Done
  • That's not the official prince website, remove that reference.
 Done
  • Use " –" instead of "-" (click edit to copy paste properly)
 Done

Charts[edit]

  • Great.
 Done

Certifications[edit]

  • Add accessdate.
 Done
  • Fine
 Done

Release history[edit]

  • The release was not worlwide.
 Done
 Done
 Done
 Done (This source must be mistaken since every other source says the 2nd, except this one says the following week.)
 Done (Didn't add since it only said 1999) → it says "CD (15 novembre 1999)"

References[edit]

  • Remove all the Discogs references.
 Done
  • robertchristgau.com → Robert Christgau
 Done
  • iTunes, AllMusic, MTV.com → nonitalic
 Done
  • MTV.com → link it once; Amazon.com → only link it once
 Done

Overall GA review[edit]

This sources could and should be used in the article. They are not only reliable but they have valid information, I just googled "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic" and all of these appear in the first 10 pages.

 Done Used.
 Done Used.
 Done Used.
@MarioSoulTruthFan: I have used this source. However, it is from Billboard so it is listed as such within the article. Carbrera (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Used.
 Done Used.
  • @Carbrera: All in all, this article has some issues regarding not only prose and writing but also references; not to mention lack of information that can be easily found as I have posted just above. I'll put this article on hold (it's not a quick fail) and I will give you 2 weeks to address all of these issues, this includes the expansion of the per said article with not only the references I posted but also others you can easily find. Good luck MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh gosh I completely forgot about this article! I'm gonna be gone in a few days for two weeks; do you think I could have a bit more time going at this article?? Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Carbrera: Sure how long? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:21, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
MarioSoulTruthFan, Carbrera, I only see one minor edit in the nearly six weeks since the above exchange. Perhaps a firm deadline could be set for the work to be done, assuming the review hasn't run out of time? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: I have been out of town for the last couple of weeks. He missed the first topics and failed to correct the websites. I will warn Carbrera.
@Carbrera: You must address the final issues, otherwise I will fail this article. You have one week, on September 3, 2016 if nothing has been done I will fail the article. Best regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@MarioSoulTruthFan and MarioSoulTruthFan: I believe I took care of it? Thanks for your leniency. Carbrera (talk) 03:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Carbrera: I left some notes with "not done" in this page, please address them, most of them are new. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC).[reply]
@Carbrera: gladly passing. I would advise you to see the importance of this article in the Pop and R&B/Soul project. Doesn't seem to be "mid-importance". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

O'Henry Sound Studios in New York?[edit]

The article refers to O'Henry Sound Studios in New York, but the article on O'Henry Sound Studios says that it's it Burbank, California. Is some clarification needed on this point? bd2412 T 01:35, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't get that either. The liner notes state that O'Henry is based in Burbank. How did New York end up there is beyond me.Shallowharold (talk) 17:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "NLD":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 15:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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