Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Svend Aage Ovesen

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Article Svend Aage Ovesen listed on WP:VFD July 2 to July 10 2004, consensus was to delete. Discussion:

Don't know if this guy is notable enough for inclusion or not, but it didn't seem to be quite a speedy candidate, so I've brought it here. blankfaze | •• | •• 18:52, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Note: There is a related article, N45BS, that contains all of the technical info (inventory, maintenance info) on the plane that Svend Aage Ovesen crashed in. If the Svend article is deleted then that should probably go too, but I don't know how to handle an instance where an article should be deleted only if another article is deleted first. - Eisnel 19:57, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • This should be at a memorial, but a memorial for what? Mike H 18:55, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Looks like it may have been created by his family or a friend in memorial, but he doesn't seem worthy of an article here. -Frazzydee 19:35, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agreed, it's sad that it's an obituary, but he's not a notable person. A Google search for "Svend Aage Ovesen" produces just one result (Svend Åge Ovesen), a list of technical entries of which Svend is just one (probably regarding a pilot's license). - Eisnel 19:44, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • I've posted the N45BS article as a speedy delete. It's a cut-and-paste from what appears to be the company that sold the plane. Delete the article in question, BTW. - Lucky 6.9 20:28, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • And while we're at it, add Svend Ovesen to the delete debate. These people seem to be slightly clueless. I'm sorry for the loss of the man, but this isn't the place to memorialize him. - Lucky 6.9 21:00, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not a site for memorials. Delete, and delete the new version at Svend Ovesen as well. -- Cyrius| 22:29, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but what's the criteria for worthy of an article? Are the wikimedia servers low on disk space? How is it, exactly, that that page lessens the value of of the encyclopedia? We have specific articles for red officers slaughtered in the civil war in finland, in the finnish wikipedia, and specific articles for finnish people famous only through usenet. The day we think our finnish version of wikipedia is too crowded for articles like this, the day I quit contributing. Keep. Lussmu 15:05, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Hi, Lussmu. Your comments here and on your user page compel me to answer your question. First of all, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia of general knowledge. Google is often applied as a litmus test to articles that are suspected of being vanity pages or pages about non-notable individuals. Though we are all sympathetic over your loss, the fact is that Mr. Ovesen simply doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion. May I also point out in our defense that many articles listed here have been cleaned up rather nicely after being posted here and that everyone here has cleaned up more than their fair share of other articles on their own. Disk space isn't a problem, but nor are servers inexpensive. Thanks for listening. Your opinion is truly valued, and please accept my apology for the "clueless" comment. Many articles like this come through here and it's easy to forget there's a person on the other side of the phone line. - Lucky 6.9 18:26, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Svend Ovesen and keep that. He and the incident are notable as one of the few airliner-rated pilots flying a commercial (rather than recreational) aircraft to die in one of the 424 fatal accidents recorded in the NTSB database for 2002. A description of the accident, aircraft and him are useful in the context of how an experienced and capable pilot can lose control in only moderately bad non-visual flight conditions. Exactly where an article about this interesting accident should go is debatable but a page under the name of the pilot seems fitting enough, compared to the aircraft registration or NTSB docket number. Jamesday 20:58, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. There are hundreds of General Aviation accidents per year, and no indication that this one is notable. DJ Clayworth 21:28, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)