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Political views[edit]

This article fails to present the span of political views represented in Aftenpostens board of editors. Even though it is correct that the CEO Olav Mugaas is at least a former communist, his role is administrative and his political background is probably not relevant in analysing Aftenpostens editorial line. Aftenpostens current editor-in-chief, Hans-Erik Matre, has no history of communist or left-wing activities.

While it is true that many left-wingers from the 1960s and later have worked their way in to the Norwegian press, it cannot be stated without debate that Aftenposten is drifting towards being part of the left-wing media in Norway.

With regards to Aftenpostens stand on Israel and the Palestinians, I'm not sure this article represents the objective truth. Most Norwegians are less enthusiastic about Israel than for example the average American, and I cannot see that Aftenposten is significantly more critical than most other non-religious newspapers in Norway.

Please sign your entries. I think it's safe to say that Aftenposten has become less conservative in its editorial outlook than before, though it probably is debatable what examples illustrate that best. My personal opinion is that the quality of the paper has suffered significantly, and the biased coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict illustrates that rather well. The truth is that there is no conservative press left in Norway, so you can't really compare it with anything else. We should probably rephrase the passage for nuance, but I think the overall point is valid. --Leifern 23:00, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the first poster here; I sense a slight disturbance in the NPOV force. The AKP-ml link is only confusing as the political profile of the paper remains weakly conservative (though it has probably become less so (conservative, that is) over the years). You cannot place them entirely by the Middle East question. By the way, for the conservative-socialist scale to be useful in Norway, you can't use, for example, American measurements (that Høyre is radical compared to the Republicans does not make them socialist!). Jørgen 21:59, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with slimming down the comments on the political profile. But I think we're missing the main point here: that Norwegian newspapers ever since the 60s have more and more become independent of political party lines. That is why these categorisations today are somewhat meaningless. Here are a couple of articles to illustrate the point (both in Norwegian): Dagbladet & Aftenposten Eixo 02:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rather large revision[edit]

Ok, I found a number of serious flaws. Please note that I regularly read Aftenposten (on the net at least) and I live in Norway.

  • Aftenposten is in bokmål, not riksmål. I do not care who told the original writer, it's plain wrong and I am not going to discuss it further.
  • "fiercely anti-communist" and "strongly pro-american" are quite heavy allegations. Now, I have not lived in Norway since the fifties, so I have not lived through the history. Please substantiate with some evidence if want to reinstate, I have never seen references to staunch conservativism in Aftenposten. For now, I placed a "conservative" which should cover most of the ground to be covered.
  • The various issues (Israel, Iraq, bishop Karmøy) were presented quite neutrally for the average Norwegian point of view. Discrimination of homosexuals is viewed over here as discrimination of blacks, and is not well tolerated (the discrimination, not homosexuality).
  • In fact, I think Aftenposten does quite a good job at staying NPOV. Opinions are normally few and clearly detached from informative articles. Sometimes it is possible that a biased article comes through, as this article on Michael Moore that contains lots of implied judgements, but that is mostly an exception.
  • The inclusion of the former political affiliation of the CEO and others, considered its placing, seemed to point at some evil communist conspiracy theory, steering Aftenposten to the left wing. This is plain silly, not ever Jan Simonsen arrived at that much. The section is removed altogether as it contains no relevant information that could instead be rather misleading.

--Orzetto 23:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Section removed[edit]

The section below was removed in this edit with the following edit commentary: "One isolted incident should not occupy an entire section on "Accuary", that is entirely out of proportion and NPOV" __meco 21:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy[edit]

There is a large concern over reporting accuracy with Aftenposten amongst various online gaming groups. The prominent reason for this was the mixup of an online political game with a Neo-Nazi group after a clearly labeled video was posted on video site youtube.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1586100.ece

The paper later retracted their claim, publishing an article stating that the group were fictional and not actual Neo-Nazi's. However it still puported that members of the White Power site Stormfront were members of the group, it is interesting to note that they didn't start joining till after the Aftenposten article

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1587626.ece


Revisions[edit]

As of November 2008, most of the issues above are no longer relevant, since the article on Aftenposten has been revised several times since then.

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