Talk:AIM-65

information about MTU products

The information about MTU products appears to have been added by someone who was either closely associated with MTU or was a fan of the company. It made the demonstrably false claim that the MTU visible memory card was the first graphics display for a microcontroller; the Cromemco Dazzler, several Matrox products, and other products from other vendors predated it.

The claim is also made that an MTU product provided the first wavetable synthesis for a microcomputer. I am somewhat skeptical that they were first at that either, but haven't removed the claim yet pending finding a documented earlier device. The fact that Hal Chamberlin was a founder of MTU does lend some credibility to the first wavetable synthesis claim, since he later wrote one of the best early books on the subject, "Musical Applications of Microprocessors".

I am in general somewhat skeptical that MTU should be singled out for mention as a vendor of AIM-65 related products at all, particularly with prose that sounds more like a marketing brochure than an encyclopedia entry. I had an AIM-65 when they were new, and investigated and purchased several accessories from several vendors, but had never even heard of MTU. If they are really worthy of any exposition in Wikipedia at all, they should have their own paged linked from AIM-65, rather than a lot of description here. Ideally on this page there would be a list of several representative accessory vendors, including MTU. --Brouhaha 17:55, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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I do wonder why Pakistan International Airlines is linked in to expand on the PIA chip. At first glance it seems somewhat tangential. 85.164.111.88 18:34, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I replaced the PIA redirect page with a disambiguation page. There still needs to be an article (even just a stub) for Peripheral Interface Adapter. --Brouhaha 22:00, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The 6522 isn't a PIA anyhow, it's a MOS Technology 6522 VIA. I added that to the VIA disambiguation page.

 --Brouhaha 22:11, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Move to AIM 65

The board itself, and all the manuals I have seen, say AIM 65, not AIM-65. AIM 65 is already a redirect to the current page, AIM-65, so I think it would need a mod to do move it cleanly, with the page history, etc. boffy_b 14:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

MTU and AIM 65

FWIW, I can vouch for MTU aka Hal Chamberlin being a significant vendor of AIM 65 peripherals. Hal Chamberlin also wrote a book Musical Applications of Microprocessors using the AIM 65 as a platform for wavetable synthesis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.191.89.152 (talk) 21:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Passing comment:

Some basic details missing. Was it a Rockwell CPU used? 6502 or 65C02? What clock speed? Also I question the opening statement that "The AIM-65 was essentially an expanded KIM-1 computer." Both machines were 6502 systems attractive to hobbyists, and from the same era, however.

-- CE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabbageears (talk • contribs) 21:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

We used several AIM 65s in our behavior research lab to control experiments and collect data. The original AIMs used MOS Technology's 6502 @ 1 MHz. The 65CO2 did not come until later, but I don't remember how much later. The original 6522 VIA and companion chips were also 1 MHz. Later generations of the MOS 6502 and companion chips were rated at 2 MHz, but I'm not sure if they were ever used in a full 2 MHz AIM 65. I would not classify the AIM 65 as an expanded KIM 1. As you point out, they both used the 6502, but that is where the similarities end. 76.88.1.215 (talk) 06:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

We also used a half dozen AIM 65s in our behavior research lab - using assembly, ROM Basic, and ROM Forth, and agree with all that is said in the immediately preceding post by xxx.215. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.88.1.215 (talk) 04:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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