Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finis White
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The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 21:21, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)
Finis White[edit]
I'm sure he's a very nice person and does good work in the Scouts but he doesn't seem notable to me. Dbiv 01:49, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Oh, man, no offence intended, but I kinda feel sorry for this guy. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:26, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable. Megan1967 02:34, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, probable vanity, not notable, though I'm not sure why reaching eagle scout status is reason to feel sorry for someone. --Spangineer ∞ 02:41, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, vanity. Khanartist 02:43, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)
- AFAIK, "be prepared" != "put your CV on Wikipedia". Delete. Alphax (t) (c) (e) 09:07, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, definite vanity... - Greaser 01:15, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, this vanity has been fought on the Eagle Scout page for a while and now on the List of Eagle Scouts as well Cavebear42 07:30, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- KEEP All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This has nothing to do with vanity!!!!! NOTHING!!!! I worked on this article from scratch as the boy's leader. He is a very notable young man. Just because you have not heard of him does not mean he is not noteworthy. Who are you to decide? If this article is deleted, I will replace it. I do not appreciate these negative comments on this accomplished young man. His story is an encouragement to young people everywhere. I don't understand this site at all. You allow criminals like serial killers and rapists to be listed, disgracing the honor of the Eagle badge; but you want to take issue with the addition of articles about accomplished youths who are making a difference in this world and living up to the Eagle Scout honor! HE IS NOTABLE!!!!!
User: Sistertina aka Tina Reed, MA, LPC (scout leader) 20 Jan 2005 --Sistertina 13:23, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Notability is not an endorsement. It's recognition of the fact that someone has done something significant. Becoming an Eagle Scout is not, in itself, significant. If this article is deleted, it will stay deleted unless and until the individual concerned becomes notable. I had thought that being in the Scouts was about growing up. Dbiv 15:02, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree with you. This young man has done more than something significant, in addition to making Eagle. And making Eagle alone is significant You would know that if you have ever been in the scouts. As a veteran leader, I know what I am taking about. I have been involved in scout leading for over a decade! I support this article and will continue to support and edit it. And, for the record, these boys are more grown up than most youths will ever be! --Sistertina 15:10, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- If he's done something significant, then what is it, and why isn't it on the page? As a matter of fact I was in the scouts in Britain for a time. According to Eagle Scout, 4% of Scouts become Eagle Scouts, and given that there are millions who join, that must still be a large number of people. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a general knowledge base at index 6. Dbiv 15:20, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree with you. This young man has done more than something significant, in addition to making Eagle. And making Eagle alone is significant You would know that if you have ever been in the scouts. As a veteran leader, I know what I am taking about. I have been involved in scout leading for over a decade! I support this article and will continue to support and edit it. And, for the record, these boys are more grown up than most youths will ever be! --Sistertina 15:10, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Notability is not an endorsement. It's recognition of the fact that someone has done something significant. Becoming an Eagle Scout is not, in itself, significant. If this article is deleted, it will stay deleted unless and until the individual concerned becomes notable. I had thought that being in the Scouts was about growing up. Dbiv 15:02, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Finis White's achievements are listed in his bio; and I am in the process of expanding it to include his recent contributions to society. For the record, its 2% who earn the Eagle, not 4. These stats are reported by the Boy Scouts of America in all of scouting's literature and leader manuals! --Sistertina 15:26, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- According to the BSA website there have been 110 million Boy Scouts since 1910. If 2% made Eagle Scout, that's more than 2 million. Please refer to Wikipedia:Criteria for Inclusion of Biographies and say whether you honestly believe this biography fits, bearing in mind that a Google search brings only 3 hits. I did say at the top that I'm sure he's a very nice man, but he just ain't notable. Dbiv 15:35, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Lupo 14:36, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Sorry, being an Eagle Scout does not qualify one as notable. john k 15:59, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. --Sillydragon 19:50, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Reasons previously stated. Segekihei 21:01, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I am an Eagle Scout, and am absurdly not-notable. It is indeed a fine achievement for a young man to reach that rank, but the Wikipedia is not here to document people who have achieved wonderful things. Tuf-Kat 02:49, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete --EnSamulili 12:26, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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