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Inaccuracies[edit]

This article is clearly rife with inaccuracies. For example, a coin's liquidity has nothing to do with its grade. Can we pass this article around to different professional numismatic grading organizations (such as the ANA, NGC, and PCGS) for review. Personally, I think the entire thing needs to be rewritten and reformatted. For example, the "overview" section should be the "history" section and the overview should come in the beginning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.145.104 (talk) 12:26, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean "rife". —Tamfang (talk) 03:46, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

+1 to rewrite 1.161.72.19 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:22, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--R&BpopROCK (talk) 23:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the title on this talk page. I'm not sure what is meant by liquidity above and the word is not in the article. Grade has everything to do with value. Higher grades sharply increase value. Liquidity typically refers to how quickly one might sell (especially stock or shares of company) and I am fairly sure it is easier to see a higher grade coin. 2600:1700:960:23B0:89F2:93D:DA0:CCFE (talk) 21:35, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Jim[reply]

Doesn't seem quite correct[edit]

The history could use some fine-tuning. I recall, for example, most of the numbers and letters in use and consistent prior to 1986, as witnessed by the de facto standard of A Guide Book of United States Coins. (Also, I'm pretty sure than the Guide Book had a larger share of the coin pricing guide market than PCGS had of the coin grading market, so it seems kind of silly to make PCGS sound like the uniter of grade levels rather than the Guide Book.) Also, "MS," "Unc.," and "BU" were eventually indistinguishable due to lack of standards for how "brilliant" brilliant uncirculated was. Anyway, I hope someone who's older and/or has a better grasp of grading history can fill in here. It would also be nice to put in redirects from EF, AU, MS, etc. Calbaer 01:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Range of scale?[edit]

The price range was from $1 to $60, and so the grading range was made from 1 to 70?!!

Since the numbers are different, it would seem that an explanation is in order, or else this is just a typo....

--Eliyahu S Talk 15:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The price range of coins doesn't go from $1 to $60. However, someone really should put the full table of grades from Poor (1) to Mint State (70) and what their corresponding numbers are on this page. Here is a page which is almost complete and seems to be accurate. If no one puts this table in this page within 90 days, I'll do it. I'd prefer not to because I'll have to figure out how to insert a table in Wikipedia and they have a strange way of formatting things. The actual typing (data) part isn't that hard. Here is another page which discusses coin grading. Mr-Encyclopedia-Man (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basal State[edit]

What in the world is basal state? Wikipedia has no article concerning it, and this article references it as if the reader knwos what it means. Mrendo 12:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed fairly clear to me that it was an alternate name for Poor, and the lowest grade on the scale which follows. While I don't know this for certain, I have edited the article to make that meaning more obvious, by throwing in a little more verbiage and using italics to offset each gradation name. If I am in error, would someone please revert my edit? Thanks. -- Eliyahu S Talk 22:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I remember a long time ago, some coins being rated as "cull" or "filler", only of value to fill in a spot in a collection, and not even worthy of a Poor rating. Does that still exist? I think it was more of an informal grade.--RLent (talk) 17:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Non-metric scale[edit]

"Thus yet another non-decimal system was born."

That's a highly editorial comment that should be removed

It's also a direct quote from either the Redbook or Photograde. Nibios (talk) 03:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grading Scale[edit]

It would be nice to include a section that describes in detail what kind of visual differences there would be between MS-63 and MS-64. Perhaps a table that goes grade-by-grade describing a commonly coin, perhaps even with photos of the same coin at each grade. Just a thought. Mwbseiso (talk) 19:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grading foreign coins?[edit]

Greetings,

Every book and website discussing coin grading that I have ever come across focuses (usually exclusively so) on American Coins. Does anyone know of any source for grading foreign coins? Thank you. Gecko G (talk) 19:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know one for British 1797-1970. It does all (almost anyway) of the obverses and reverses. "The standard guide to Grading British coins" by Derek Allen, and Rotographic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.233.49 (talk) 08:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

re: "Distinctions" section[edit]

Does this sentence refer to counterfeit coins or counterfeit grading? I am not familiar with any of this information... perhaps the meaning is obvious to most but for the neophyte it isn't 100% clear.

"One thing PCGS did accomplish was largely ridding the marketplace of inferior counterfeits."

64.58.178.213 (talk) 01:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It referred to the counterfeit coins themselves. I've updated the article accordingly. Nibios (talk) 17:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

R.R.R.R.?[edit]

In what coin grading system is R.R.R.R. used? Шизомби (talk) 06:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the limits of imagination[edit]

It is difficult to imagine that there will be yet finer distinctions in grading in the future, yet it's already happening.

Any objection to removing this silly sentence, or suggestions for replacing it? —Tamfang (talk) 21:10, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing none ... —Tamfang (talk) 08:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

European Grading system... the United Kingdom System[edit]

I am quite confused. The British system i use as a British collector goes straight from Fine to Fair to Poor. I always understood by observation and by book the the absurd words of Good and Very good were American. Can someone clarify?? 90.193.233.49 (talk) 08:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Clarity[edit]

There is a clarity tag, and I saw it written, "Can the article say that such scale is detailed in the below table's left column?" on January 2019. I decided to just make the change. Hopefully some authoritarian wikipedian won't blindly revert my change. 2600:1700:960:23B0:89F2:93D:DA0:CCFE (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Jim[reply]

Pricing[edit]

I would like to know whats the original price I can sale the coins 2601:547:B03:1EFC:2579:3A6A:A826:5BFE (talk) 12:27, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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