Talk:Secular Student Alliance

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SSA History[edit]

I'm an officer with Campus Atheists and Secular Humanists at the University of Minnesota and I noticed some of the info about the SSA's 2000 conference was factually inaccurate. I corrected the name of our organization and the date in which it was founded. --armybandgeek 20 Nov 2006

Two concerns[edit]

I have two concerns about the recent addition of the verbatim text of the SSA's misison statement (from [1]):

it would appear to be a violation of their copyright. It might be fair use if it was quoted and referenced properly and put to some use in the article, but at the moment, it isn't.
it overwhelms the article and threatens its neutrality. --rbrwr ^± 22:45, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

1. I'm on the <a href="http://www.secularstudents.org/primer/structure/bod.html"> Board of Directors</a> of the SSA, and SSA does not mind. Should have mentioned that.

2. You may be right. Prior to the edit there was barely any content at all. What alternative format would you recommend? --vorpalbla 19 Jan 2005

Neutrality[edit]

This article seems to me to be disturbingly biased in favor of the secular/humanist movement. I'm probably not the best person to edit it due to my own views on the subject, but I would appreciate someone taking a look at it. Elijah Sight 18:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Elijah Sight[reply]

I do not see where you perceive bias in this article. Each statement in this article appears to be a declaration of fact about the organization: The SSA has three paid staff; a listing of the group's mission statement; descriptions of some of their past activities. There is no judgment of those activities or statements. If you are perceiving bias in the organization's mission or activities, as opposed to this article's statement of those details, then your argument of bias is not relevant to this article and should be removed. Lyzliddell (talk) 15:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see where Elijah Sight is coming from even though I'm biased in the same direction as the SSA. For instance, the mission statement section includes the unquoted, plain sentence "Specifically, we seek to support students and student communities that seek ..." we sounds as if either the information was copied and pasted from the organisation's website verbatim, or the section was written by a member of the SSA. Either way, this shows the article deserves more attention as to its neutrality. --74.170.53.76 (talk) 04:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The POV tag has been in place since March 2008, with only two comments in this thread since then, and there hasn't been any discussion in the last eight months since January 2009. The issue is stale and there isn't clear consensus on POV, so I'm removing the POV tag from the article. — Becksguy (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:SSALogo.jpg[edit]

Image:SSALogo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use information provided[edit]

Note that "SSA owns the copyright to the image and has allowed for it to be reproduced."

vorpalbla —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.170.165 (talk) 01:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Adding potential sources for developing and referencing article, as I find them. Incomplete. — Becksguy (talk) 00:22, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Black, Nathan (21 September 2009). "US sees increase in secular student groups". Christian Today. Retrieved 2009-10-06. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Powell, Devin (August 8, 2009). "Creation Museum: Is This How World Began?". ABC News. Retrieved 2009-10-06. 300 Skeptics Converge on Christian Museum in Kentucky {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

"Atheists groups double in size on college campuses". The Huntsville Times. September 18, 2009. Retrieved 2009-10-06. The number of atheist or agnostic student groups on U.S. campuses has more than doubled in the past two years - from 80 to 162 - according to the Secular Student Alliance (SSA), the national organization for the secular student movement. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Article Cites are mostly primary cites from Secular Student Alliance website and press[edit]

This article is poorly sourced and should either be fixed or deleted. Much of it violates WP:OR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihaveadreamagain (talk • contribs) 18:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC) I added some "citation needed" tags in hopes that someone will help improve this page. I cannot find many articles about this group that are WP:RS. Ihaveadreamagain (talk) 20:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)Ihaveadreamagain[reply]