Talk:Father's Day

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The gov't of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is theocratic where state affairs are governed by the king but lifestyle of the Saudis is controlled by religious elders (read, Muslim sheikhs) who would detest observance of anniversaries other than the two Islamic holidays, viz: Eid Al-Fitr & Eid Al-Adha. Never had I heard Fathers Day (Arabic, Yawm Al-Ab يوم الأب) for three decades that I lived there. Hence, it is absolutely a mistake to include Saudi Arabia as among countries observing Fathers Day on the 3rd Sunday of June. Do rectify to add more credibility on the article. Tomdec78 (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrations of one's individual father (singular) vs. celebration of fathers (pl)[edit]

"Father's Day is a holiday of honoring fatherhood and paternal bonds, as well as the influence of fathers in society." Seems inaccurate. The holiday is specifically "Father's Day" a singular possessive, not "Fathers' Day" a plural possessive. This would indicate it is about each individual father and not the collection of all fathers.

Father's Day is derived from Mother's Day. Anna Jarvis, who created and championed Mother's Day specifically calls out that "Mother's" should "be a singular possessive, for each family to honor its own mother, not a plural possessive commemorating all mothers in the world." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day). Mpeachey (talk) 18:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As with many other words and terms, meaning changes over time, and differs around the world. I'm in my 70s and can long remember discussion of the day being about all mothers, not just one's own. And there's more. Mother's Day is very soon here in Australia, and I heard a discussion this morning about how this day should be focussed given the modern day acceptance of many different structures of families. Obviously some families don't include mothers, for many different reasons - two fathers, or death of a mother, for example. The same obviously applies to fathers. There isn't a rigid, single, global definition. HiLo48 (talk) 03:06, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]