Talk:Crime Story (American TV series)

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Reason for revert[edit]

Although Todd Rundgren did contribute to the show's musical score, he did NOT sing the theme song. That actually was Del Shannon's voice. The voice sounded different because he was in his 50's when he re-recorded the song for Crime Story

The fact that Del himself re-recorded his song for Crime Story can be verified on[1] in the third paragraph form the bottom, and on [2] where Todd Rundgren is credited for SOME of the "non-original music" but Del Shannon and Del Shannon alone is credited with the song. This can also be verified in the show's closing credits (I have the 2 box sets).JeffStickney 11:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the correction; I've seen Todd credited elsewhere. But, who are you? Trekphiler 03:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Release date for DVD's[edit]

I bought the season 1 box set (with a different cover)in 2004. The details for the first release of season 1 can be found at [[3]]. JeffStickney 16:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could it have been otherwise?[edit]

Quote: "The guitar had been given to Kooper by Jimi Hendrix as a gift prior to Hendrix's death."

Now: "prior to Jimi's death" is tautological. Dead men don't give gifts. elpincha 17:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but the way it's worded now, it sounds like Hendrix gave Kooper the guitar specifically for recording the soundtrack; which is impossible, since Hendrix died 16 years earlier. Cubs Fan 16:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggestions for the article[edit]

1) Saying that Crime story set the mould for television series like 24, Deadwood and Rome that have continuing plots ls laughable as Hill Street Blues, St-Elsewhere and other shows at the time, and there have been countless series between then and the current flavour-of-the-week examples.

2) The article is mostly about the police and crime figures who inspired the series, not the series itself.

3) My memory may be playing me false but didn't some police association at the time criticize the series for showing law enforcement in a bad light?

AG

Basis in Chicago crime history[edit]

As per the comments above, I've removed this section as it is unsourced and comes off as original research. If these paragraphs could be cited then they should be placed back in the article.--J.D. (talk) 13:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before becoming an actor, Dennis Farina was a member of the Chicago police department, as was series co-creator Adamson. Adamason was a Sergeant and Farina was Detective in Chicago's Central Investigative Unit, the real-life counterpart to the "Major Crimes Unit" in the series, which was commanded by Det. William Hanhardt. John Santucci, who played mobster and safecracker Pauli Taglia, was, in his past, a notorious jewel thief. The museum score depicted in the pilot episode was based on a real heist in which Santucci participated. In his previous career Santucci had been arrested by both Adamson and Farina, and was a confidential informer for Det. William Handhardt.

Many of the early episodes were composited stories based on the Chicago mob, called "The Outfit", and the CIU, the special crimes and criminal unit of the Chicago Police Department that tracked the mobsters, and was run by Det. William Handardt. Torello was based on Det. William Hanhardt, the real life head of the anti-mob unit. Hanhardt's exploits were legendary in Chicago's press and police files. Reininger and Adamson based Luca, on Chicago mobster Anthony Spilotro. Spilotro started as the head of a sophisticated burglary "crew." He attracted the attention of Chicago Outfit because he "fenced" his merchandise through their associates. Spilotro is considered by the FBI to have made his "bones" by assassinating the legendary head of the Chicago Outfit, Sam "Momo" Giancana, who had become a liability because of his involvement with the CIA in events surrounding the Bay of Pigs. Spilotro went from street thief to mafia chief in record time. Eventually, he was sent to Las Vegas to monitor the unreported cash that was "skimmed" from Chicago crime-syndicate-owned casinos back to their bosses in the Windy City, and then distributed to other Mob "investors" in Milwaukee, Kansas City, Detroit, and Cleveland.

Spilotro was unsuccessfully prosecuted several times by Federal authorities. He never served jail time. In 1986, he was the target of a massive prosecutorial effort led by the Las Vegas and Chicago branches of the U. S. Justice Department's Organized Crime Strike Force. In early 1986, he was on trial in Federal Court in Las Vegas, being defended by attorney Oscar Goodman, who eventually was elected the Mayor of Las Vegas. Reininger was supoenaed as a material witness for Spilotro, who was alleging that the only way Reininger could have written scripts and the series "Bible" was by having access to Federal wiretaps of Spilotro. Reininger in turn discovered that his New York phones were being monitored. Reininger was served Spilotro's subpoena, and given a deadly warning, in a New York hotel bar by private detective Anthony Pellicano, who in 2006 was imprisoned for illegal wiretapping, blackmail and harassment while representing notable Los Angeles entertainment figures.

Ironically Spilotro, like Giancana before him, had become a liability to the "Outfit." On a weekend trial recess, Spilotro returned home to Chicago and was brutally murdered along with his brother Michael, and buried in an Indiana cornfield. The case was dismissed, and Reininger, who had sent all his "Crime Story" work materials to a former banking associate in Zurich, Switzerland, did not have to testify.

  • Most of the first paragraph you listed was on the liner notes of the DVD box set. I'll source it when I put it back.Since that paragraph deals specifically with the cast members rather than the story I put it in the cast section for now.JeffStickney (talk) 14:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me.--J.D. (talk) 14:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings[edit]

I wonder why Mann would have wondering if the show would be renewed for season two if it had the "record" ratings that are claimed for season one.  68.109.128.222 (talk) 08:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you read closely, the pilot ep. got very high ratings but as the season progressed, the ratings steadily declined as the show was aired opposite Moonlighting, hence the concern that it would get picked up for another season.--J.D. (talk) 18:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Crime Story (American TV series)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I've been working to improve this article and would welcome any suggestions or contributions so that it could be upgraded to GA status.--J.D. (talk) 23:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 23:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 12:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 2 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved: replacing links now. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 12:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Crime Story (TV series) → Crime Story (U.S. TV series) – Needs to be moved for necessary disambiguation from Crime Story (UK TV series), as per WP:NCTV and WP:INCDAB. Doing this as a WP:RM because a lot of incoming links will need to be updated if this article is moved. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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