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There are NOT 3.2 million Pashtuns in india and the source is a verbal arbitrary statement by an individual as the source without any actual fact checking. Please correct this section. 2607:FEA8:1323:EC00:4C25:7C29:756A:A32F (talk) 13:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a mire reliable source for it? Afghan.Records (talk) 18:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Indian official census states a far lower lumber, around 27,000 if I recall correctly.
The currently cited source (a politician with their own agendas) is not reliable in comparison.
However, some people are obsessed with inflating the number of Pashtun living in India. Solblaze (talk) 20:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sadly I have encountered the same issue. The figure is straight up unverifiable. In fact the figure comes from a lady who claims to be the daughter of a man who was allegedly adopted by Frontier Gandhi to continue the Pashtunistan movement from India. Her mission is equally non-sensical, as she is campaigning for citizenship for the said 3.2 million Pashtuns. She also makes other ridcilous claims that the Taliban are "outsiders" to Afghanistan and generally ignorant things, in what is almost certainly a psy-op by some agency. The fact is this "source" would not fly anywhere else on Wikipedia, but it keeps making rounds on here. KamranHassanUK (talk) 18:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This 2011 Indian census link can be used if interested. Jammu and Kashmir had around 18,000 Pashto speakers in 2011, Delhi 1,800 and so on. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, it says I reverted edits from the recently blocked Afghan.Records, but I never remember reverting any edits on here. I only remember warning Afghan for edit warring and disrupting peace. If the edit is an incorrect edit, please fix it as I did not do anything, I swear. Thatoneguylol101 (talk) 06:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Me being temporarily banned at nothing to do with this page. so can you please refer it to it was before because you have removed crucial information. Afghan.Records (talk) 01:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Afghan.Records Please explain what you're trying to do here. Your edit (revert) changed a lot of info. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think in the paragraph where talk of " scythian" tribe is quoted, it should be made clear that the Strabo meant yuezhis not scythians ( look the main yuezhi article for more info,) 178.232.61.65 (talk) 12:24, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Henry walter is not a reliable source he isn’t even a historian Afghan.Records (talk) 01:15, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article per WP:NPOV, presents "all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources". Bellew's theory is a historical position, and other historical positions are mentioned in the article, such as the theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites (though highly unlikely). You have been warned and reverted by others, such as User:HistoryofIran who astutely noted: "This is hypocrisy. Fair enough that you remove poorly sourced information, but conveniently you only do it with info you don't agree with. You have no issue using poor sources if they fit your POV." Thanks for your understanding, AnupamTalk 01:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interestingly my sources from the 21st century about the Bactrian and Sogdians origin of Pashtuns from actual historians were deleted and but a 19th century surgeons view are cherry picked and published as facts.
My sources from Cambridge, Andre Wink, and Oxford university were called poor but Henry Walter is reliable? HistoyofIran has no fave calling me a hypocrite being the person he is and pushes a surgeons view over actual historians.
More edits doesn’t mean a person has more knowledge in the case of HOI more edits more propaganda and false information he has spread.
I have never seen hypocrisy on this level deleting the Bactrian sources from Cambridge History of Iran publishings and Sogdian sources from Oxford publications then saying “Bellew's theory is a historical position” giving it validation and calling me a hypocrite?
For this reason there should be restrictions on this page because its not a grammar fixing page people who actually believe a surgeon is more reliable and historically accurate than modern academics has no right editing a page of a whole ethnic group. Afghan.Records (talk) 03:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, this is enough. You've had your WP:ROPE, the fact that you still try to justify your disruptive edits is baffling. For anyone interested, see their previous ANI report [1]. This user is in no position to talk about neutrality. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well I am done with you pushing your agenda and bias and bullying inexperienced editors. Pushing Henry walter as a source says enough about your ability to provide proper and unbiased information, coupled with the fact that you conveniently ignore the part that he is a surgeon and to put even more sugar on top you ignore the part where he said Bangash are the descendants of Samanids and push and cherry pick tiny bits of what you like. You know you cant make a good argument so you proceed to accuse me of what you are actually doing. Afghan.Records (talk) 17:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When did I push Henry Walter? Link a diff. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Go to the page see yourself, lost the argument so bad now trying to act like you didn’t. Afghan.Records (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you can't back up what you're saying, then please keep it to yourself. See WP:ASPERSIONS. HistoryofIran (talk) 18:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bellew's hypothesis is sensible and of historical interest. There are many theories mentioned here, most of which are implausible. It's fine to mention this in historical context, and there is only one sentence devoted to it. I'm not sure why Afghan Records is getting so worked up about it. As noted above, this may be a personal POV issue. Lorstaking (talk) 18:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not really I am worked up because Henry Wlaters words are cherry picked and actual academic material from scholars I posted in Pashtun theories were called cherry picking and deleted. Afghan.Records (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also Bellews points are neither sensible or accurate thats why you will never see an academic saying anything similar. Besides his words here are cherry picked. Afghan.Records (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shockingly a lot of the sources in this page are motivated and cherry picked can someone with actual history knowledge take a look at them? The page stinks of propaganda and false narratives Afghan.Records (talk) 15:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Pukhtuns are not iranic people , pukhtuns are belong to one of the lost tribe of isreal. there are people who moved to afghanistan during persian empire from iran, those people speak dari(persian) those people are not pukhtuns , The information in the wikipedia calling pukhtuns eastern irani people is not correct and needed to be change . Khandong (talk) 01:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only the ghilzai are and their origins are dubious! Ancestors of Pashtuns are Bactrians and Pactyans who were sedentary people 2607:FEA8:4D60:590:C1B4:3AFD:B8FE:8EFF (talk) 22:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
