Talk:Roy Face

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Questionable section[edit]

I could find no reference to all this stuff about Nepal, Tibet, enlightenmnet, etc. Can a source be given, please? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:51, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In my search, I was able to find an earlier forkball reference and his use by Roy Face. According to an October 23, 2000 article in Sports Illustrated, Face learned the forkball from Joe Page, the former Yankee reliever. Page was attempting a comeback with the Pirates in 1954 and showed the pitch to Face during Spring Training of that year. But I was not able (or willing) to find anything to substantiate this mystic stuff posted by user 69.137.66.118 [1]. MusiCitizen 07:53, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that was all that I could find. I think that it was vandalism, and can safely be deleted whenever it reappears. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:55, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I add my opinion that the Tibet/Nepal stuff is B.S. I was in college in 1960, living in Pittsburgh, and Elroy was a hero. After he left baseball, he became a carpenter and maintenance man for a local mental institution. A down to earth guy, not a philosopher, is my picture of him. Lou Sander 22:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the section, which I also suspected was nonsense posted by an anon user. (I moved the mention of the forkball and Page higher up.) The only websites I found featuring Roy Face and Tibet were copied from this article; I also couldn't find any relevant references in print reference works. If someone finds an appropriate reference, feel free to re-add the section. MisfitToys 22:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1960 World Series[edit]

In the comments about the 1960 World Series, it could be interpreted that Elroy Face won game seven. Not so. Harvey Haddix was credited with the victory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.97.130.53 (talk) 04:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it explains that he left the game in the bottom of the eighth and the Pirates won it in the bottom of the ninth, so I don't think it will generally be interpreted as suggesting he was the winning pitcher. MisfitToys (talk) 02:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

saves[edit]

his 1959 season spurned the creation of the save by Jerome Holtzman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.201.58.75 (talk) 01:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone heard that Face played the banjo and sang a song titled "Pert Near, But not Plumb?" 70.233.155.141 (talk) 01:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Roberto Clemente[edit]

There's currently an ugly allegation about Face's relationship with Clemente, added by anonymous user 70.215.64.171 on 12 May without any reference. A quote on page 63 of Roberto Clemente: Baseball Star and Humanitarian, by Lew Freedman, contradicts the gist of the section. I think the claim either needs to be substantiated or struck. --Ewilen (talk) 06:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that someone went ahead and removed that section. A few searches using "elroy face" have turned up some hints. In the interest of fairness:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Roberto_Clemente_Bibliography_-_TSN's_RC_Chronology "I’d always assumed it was Jack Hernon, who 1) displayed on occasion a palpable antipathy toward Clemente [somewhat akin to Pirate reliever Elroy Face’s attitude toward his Puerto Rican teammate]"

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Saluting+Pittsburgh's+finest.-a0181757196 "This book by Maraniss is as comprehensive and accurate a work on a major sports icon as we have read. If there is a weakness (and there is not much of one), it is that no one--even after reading this moving, informative work--will know the truth concerning the much rumored (and possibly apocryphal) knife fight that was said to have occurred between Clemente and teammate Elroy Face." Ewilen (talk) 14:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]