Talk:Pullman Company

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Pullman-Standard redirect[edit]

I'm not so sure that we should be redirecting Pullman-Standard to here. I've always separated Pullman and Pullman-Standard in my mind mainly because Pullman-Standard built a lot more freight cars (like the PS-1 box car) than they did passenger cars. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable with PS's offerings would like to fill in an article for that entity? slambo 18:48, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Haskell & Barker?[edit]

I would be interested in seeing how Haskell & Barker (a predecessor, I think) was involved. - Mark Mathu 8/15/2005

UK?[edit]

The British Rail Class 251 article links here from the Pullman Car Company link, but there is nothing on this page about the UK. Is this just an omission or is the information about this elsewhere (so I can change the link?) Thryduulf 01:38, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It just hasn't been added yet. I don't have a solid reference to tell me more about it yet. Slambo (Speak) 19:02, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Corporate History[edit]

I added the corporate history information after searching on-line, and not finding much. This is a compilation from several years ago of several sources, which I unfortunately neglected to record. - Don Strack 13:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pullman's Kellog subsidiary[edit]

A minor correction in the Pullman history: M. W. Kellogg was a subsidiary of Pullman when I joined Kellogg in 1950, long before any merger with Wheelabrator. Kellogg may have started business as a pipe and smokestack fabricator but they became the premier process designer and engineering construction company in the petroleum refinery field as it developed in the early part of the century and to this day. (Today as part of Halliburton.) Their subsidiary, Kellex, also designed the uranium gas diffusion plant at Oak Ridge as part of the Manhatten project. Retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Donstrack, which included the comment "I haven't figured out how this works yet. Is this how to start modifications?" -- DJN27 16:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't added this because the other sources, namely the SEC filings, did not mention an earlier merger. Don Strack 19:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

49, 57 or 59?[edit]

The Smithsonian's Pullman Collection shows 59 railroads took over operation in 1944, while the Pullman Collection at the Newberry Library shows 57 railroads. Another unrecorded source showed 49 railroads. Obviously, more research is needed here. Don Strack 18:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

End of Pullman[edit]

Sadly, no specific published work has been identified, that carries a comprehensive history of Pullman and its corporate operations. The information in the End of Pullman section is the result of various internet searches, including various Securities and Exchange Commission filings that were found using Pullman as a search word. Other information came from interested persons on several internet railroad (railway) discussion groups. Don Strack 18:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too quiet on Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters?[edit]

I feel that the article is too quiet about the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters. Today, Pullmans are strongly linked to the history of the union. The article sleeping car does a better job, perhaps, of acknowledging the Brotherhood's place in history. I've moved a bit of trivia out of the lead and put in a sentence about the porters, but they still warrant more attention. Cheers, --Smilo Don (talk) 01:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AP Story... Someone added this... Could use nicely, if edited and referenced...[edit]

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — They worked long hours doing often menial labor for meager pay on America's railroads, and paved the way for the civil rights movement in the process. Now, the unsung men known as Pullman porters are getting overdue recognition for their historical legacy.

On Saturday, in conjunction with National Train Day, a handful of surviving Pullman porters in their 80s and 90s are being honored during a ceremony at Philadelphia's historic 30th Street Station. Similar gatherings have been held in Oakland, Chicago and Washington.

"The stories and the history we have shows the job these gentlemen did, and their dedication to top-notch service, was just incredible," said Darlene Abubakar, Amtrak's national advertising director. "We wanted to recognize them for that and share their stories."

At least four men are expected to attend the Philadelphia event. Porters still living may only number in the dozens, Amtrak officials said.

Pullman porters not only were role models in their community, they also helped change race relations in America, said Lyn Hughes, founder of the A. Philip Randolph Pullman Porter Museum in Chicago.

"These men were often the only exposure white Americans had to the African-American community," Hughes said. "They were articulate, well dressed, dignified, and they made that impression upon the general public."

The first Pullman porters, hired after the Civil War, were former slaves. Their ranks reached 20,000 in the early part of the 20th century, making them the largest group of African-American men employed in the country. They formed the first black labor union, the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, in the 1920s under the stewardship of A. Philip Randolph, who also was a civil rights leader.

Percy Lee, 86, rose from fourth cook to head chef during his 38 years working the Illinois Central Railroad line. In a telephone interview from his home in Fulton, Ky., Lee said he put six children through college from his work on the railroad. He had to retire in 1979 after being injured when his train derailed.

"But I appreciate every day, every minute I worked on that train," said Lee, who plans to attend the Philadelphia event. "It was the best train in the world — with the best food in the world. Now everything comes frozen." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iTP5sBYQNAD3TkairC6A9lJaDGaQD9827QHO3 --Smilo Don (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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