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History of Zooming User Interfaces[edit]

I made a compilation of the History of Zooming User Interfaces:
http://zbalai.com/zuiwiki/index.php?title=Zooming_User_Interface_History
What do you advise regarding this content?

  1. Post it as a link in the main article?
  2. Create a Wikipedia article called history of user interfaces?
  3. Refine and shorten it and put it into the main ZUI article?

Zbalai (talk) 10:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC) Answers below pls:[reply]

  • If you have references for all the documents you used to compile that history, IMO the best option would be #3 (which would release your content under the CC-SA license). The first option is not viable, as your site is a self-published source and not valid as a Wikipedia reference. The second option (a separate article for the history of the ZUI) would also work, although that would make the "detail" article longer than the "main" one. :-) Diego (talk) 11:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Euros[edit]

What are Euros the new SI unit of currency? Gimme a break.. Microsoft, Apple, RedHat, Sun, Novell grok $$'s... Unsigned by 198.11.22.244. (AlistairMcMillan 23:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Euros are the currency of Europe.
Europe is now the biggest single market for Microsoft, Apple, Red Hat, Sun, etc. It is also the birthplace of Linus Torvalds and of GNU-Linux, which was assembled from contributions sent from all over the world (not just the US and Europe)when he was a student in Finland.
If you estimate that other major currencies are also important, then add them! AlainV 04:00, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Seems a bit crazy to me though, should we include Yen and British pounds too? I'm sure money comes from these countries too. Seems to me that just putting dollars makes the article read better... User:mattsday
"Read better", you mean for Americans? what about for everyone else? and I would also like to point out that America isn't the only country that calls their currency dollars. --Wafflemou 08:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bi-Dimensional?[edit]

Are ZUIs inherently bi-dimensional? I've removed the phrase "The computer game Black & White was noted for employing a ZUI as a means of navigating the in-game island scenery." because in this game the overall metaphor is not one of an infinite plane of information with objects represented at different levels of scale and detail, but one of navigating through a 3D environment. What are the limits of what is considered a ZUI in the academic world from which it originates? Diego Moya 11:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Exposé[edit]

Would OSX's Exposé count as a minimal implementation of a ZUI? -- Jeff 21:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would say no. Exposé uses a zooming effect, but is not what I would consider a full-fledged ZUI. For example, it's more of a way to view other user interfaces (which aren't ZUIs), rather than an interface in itself. And besides that, you can't zoom in degrees. You either get the big picture at the top level, or the normal view. --Dan 18:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, Exposé does not seem to meet the requirements for a ZUI. Gwernol 19:02, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
BTW it's an interesting phenomenon to observe that the combination of Exposé (zoom out) and Quickview (zoom in) sort of converges towards the originial ZUI idea. It's still not a true ZUI, however. Andreas Schuderer (talk) 08:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zoomspace[edit]

Does anyone else feel that the Zoomspace paragraph feels a little too much like an advertisment? For example, this part: "supports industry templates such as comics, corporate, e-commerce, games, magazines, zoom-media-browser™, photo browsing, PIM zoomtop™, homeland security, and travel/maps, thus demonstrating the wide applicability of ZUIs" --Dan 18:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. I nearly changed this when doing a recent sweep through the article, but decided that someone with more knowledge of this space needed to do it. I'd say be bold and go ahead and clean it up. Gwernol 19:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is definitely an ad. Removed everything past the first sentence of that paragraph. Moreover, the website is inaccessible so it may be appropriate to remove the broken external link to the company.
Link works. Role of MIT Media Lab, GeoPhoenix, Sony, Orbanes, Guzman, and Miura w/ ZUIs verified + acknowleged.

Spam?[edit]

What?! Why did Gwernol remove the link to vsxu.com? That's not spam. It's a link to a piece of software that uses a ZUI. In what way is that different from all the other links to software that uses ZUI? This article is about ZUI and ZUI software, isn't it? Ion seal 09:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link spam[edit]

I don't think "3D file browsers" are zooming interfaces at all, and some of the links are for commercial products. Should I just remove them? --Foofy 17:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

04-04-07 These links are the most complete collection of references to "Zooming User Interfaces" on the net. In that ZUI's are all about visualization of information, even commercial attempts at implementation are very important to interested parties. So, no... please do not remove the links. thanks. second that HeikoHaller (talk) 12:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting the Links[edit]

I cannot see the difference between the current two sections of links what makes the difference between "ZUI Projects" and "Other Examples"? Can someone explain this? Otherwise I would suggest the following Sections instead:

  • Frameworks/Toolkits for building ZUIs
  • ZUI Applications

maybe ZUI Applications could be further structured in

  • Native ZUI Applications (where Zooming is a fundamental part of the paradigm)
  • Other Applications Using Zoom Functionalities

or according to the distinction included in the source code "Please include only projects that support zooming to show hyperlinked information. Other "zoomable" interfaces are usually not considered ZUIs - they don't follow the academic definition." (while it might be an interesting distinction, I don't see why a zooming tool for unlinked data should not be considered a ZUI)

What dou you think? HeikoHaller (talk) 12:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ZUI goes beyond a "magnifying glass". For an interface to qualify as a ZUI, various levels of information must appear at different zoom levels - not just the same information but bigger.
Otherwise, every application out there with a zoom function would be a ZUI (MS Word, text editors with configurable font size, screen magnifiers for accesibility, SVG images... If all elements that can be changed in size are ZUIs, the term becomes almost meaningless. But ZUI has a relatively precise meaning which relates zooming with navigation. I think this is a good criterium that we can use to assess which applications should go in the list. For example Google Earth would qualify, but the zooming browsers in iPhone's Safari or Wii's Opera would not. Diego Moya (talk) 15:37, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pleasantly surprised[edit]

I followed the link from iPhone, expecting to find a new stub. Instead, this looks to be a well-researched (if short) article with quite a history. Nice work! -- Kesh 01:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Virtual Desktop[edit]

virtual desktop should be removed completely! it is not a kind of ZUI. furthermore, the section subtitle refers to the coming "full implementation". As a subcategory of GUI, the ZUI is a kind of application; the ZUI is not an application and thus can not be implemented at all. the section is off topic and poorly written from start to finish. and finally, to the anonymous author of the section, i ask you this: is "alt+tab" a function or an application? i think it is a feature of the application called Explorer -- simply neither. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.34.155.184 (talk) 07:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

That is incorrect, there are many similarities between virtual desktops and ZUIs, the expo plugin for compiz-fusion is a great example, look at this clip on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXF-zlcei20&mode=related&search=

--Wafflemou 08:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes & No... the mention of Virtual Desktops (wiki linked) and the reasoning is perfectly valid. Listing virtual desktop implementations should not be in this article. Osndok (talk) 19:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Osndok. I would also remove the listing to virtual desktop implementations. Zbalai 23:27, 21 November 2011 (CET)

iPhone[edit]

I am not convinced that the iPhone uses a ZUI, it just looks like it uses a zooming animation for its interface. And I can name many occurrences that a zooming animation is used in other things. --Wafflemou 08:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As of iOS7 it looks like Apple is moving much more towards a fully realised zoomable interface. I have updated this section accordingly. Erik Veland (talk) 06:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect[edit]

Searching for ZUI doesn't bring up this page and the article that it directs to (Showtaro Morikubo) lacks a link to this page under the "redirected from" text. Thus if you want to search for this article, you must know the already know what ZUI stands for (most people wouldn't).

--Maikeru Go (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jef Raskin's The Humane Interface, aka "Archy"[edit]

Should be mentioned, as a very early example of ZUI. See here for the demo, and elsewhere on that site for more information. -- 207.233.32.18 (talk) 23:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC) (really, User:JesseW/not logged in (but not all the edits from this IP are me))[reply]

I agree, Jef Raskin was one of the first to stress the importance of this type of UI. - ZBALAI Nov 2011

Deleted links[edit]

Rescuing the deleted list of external links with a compilation of "Zoomable User Interface" examples and information. There are some items in there that are notable (e.g. Piccolo, Dasher) and should be redacted into the article. Diego Moya (talk) 22:48, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ZUI projects[edit]

Eagle Mode’s file manager displaying plain text source code directories

Other examples[edit]

Resources[edit]

Please do so. I removed all of them because the list was too long and getting borderline spammy, but I'm sure some good ones were there that should be restored. But try to keep the number down (and make sure they are mentioned in the article text -- they should be if they're notable enough, anyway). Cheers, Waldir talk 21:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed and PRESERVEd[edit]

I'm removing the whole section, as it keeps attracting ELNO links. I'll try to think of a way to restore the few encyclopedic links that describe the relevant ZUI projects. Diego (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Eagle Mode’s file manager displaying plain text source code directories

References

  1. ^ "Visualizing a Universe of Data: ChronoZoom". Microsoft Research. Microsoft. Retrieved 17 April 2011.
  2. ^ https://ziteboard.com/faq
  3. ^ http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/44919?theme=print
  4. ^ Pietriga, Emmanuel; Huot, Stéphane; Nancel, Mathieu; Primet, Romain (2011-01-01). "Rapid Development of User Interfaces on Cluster-driven Wall Displays with jBricks". Proceedings of the 3rd ACM SIGCHI Symposium on Engineering Interactive Computing Systems. EICS '11. New York, NY, USA: ACM: 185–190. doi:10.1145/1996461.1996518. ISBN 978-1-4503-0670-6.

More links[edit]

  • ZVTM: ZUI toolkit for Java developed at INRIA.
  • Story Turbo: Creativity app, has zooming interface, unlimited canvas, multiple editors, made with Java.
  • ClipFlair Studio: part of OpenSource Silverlight-based platform of ClipFlair project (Foreign Language Learning through Interactive Captioning and Revoicing of Clips) uses a ZUI container of zoomable floating windows (FloatingWindowHostZUI), supports nested activities (separate zooming portals), its Image component can zoom classic images but also DeepZoom images and collections, its Gallery component can host CXML (Collection XML) metadata with DeepZoom image tiles, its Map component shows zoomable Bing maps. Direct URL: http://studio.clipflair.net

Zooming Window Manager[edit]

Should Zooming window manager redirect here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.247.163.191 (talk) 19:11, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]