Talk:Leonardo Boff

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1st edition was ...[edit]

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MARXIST[edit]

Boff's political activism was Marxist. This is why he was critized by Pope John Paul the II. He was in support of the Marxist fighters and he mixed Catholicism with Marxism. Dwain 23:08, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

That the Vatican viewed his writings as inappropriately incorporating concepts from Marx's writings does not mean that Boff was himself a Marxist. We do not write from the Vatican point of view, we write from the neutral point of view. RadicalSubversiv E 00:57, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And in the need of neutrality it's important to mention the name "Inquisition"? The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faithful hasn't had that name for nearly a century.--T. Anthony 13:41, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is no point of view when The Congregation is related with "Inquisition". This is a fact. --Patrick-br 14:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is not necessary to the article, so yes it is POV. There's no real reason to mention what's historically related to what in every case. If someone kills another person with a Volkswagen is it necessary to mention the car is "historically associated with Adolph Hitler." (A much closer and real connection BTW) Even if it's a Neo-Nazi doing action I think it'd only be relevant if the use of that brand was important to the person. Bringing up the Inquisition sets up a false image that confuses the reality. He uses it in his description, but when he's less annoyed he doesn't mention this connection on his website. Because even in his description of the event he got a lecture, was censured for a bit, and went home. There was no interrogation under hotlights or torture or anything. Essentially they had coffee and annoying conversation. Added to that the "Inquisition" could possibly confuse readers who don't know the difference between the Roman and Spanish Inquisitions. To summarize then, yes it ends up being POV. So a simple "Inquisition" line I will remove whenever I see. I haven't decided what I'll do if the more accurate "related to the Roman Inquisition" is used instead. Although I still think it'd be an unnecessary addition. Also I know this sounds harsh, but I did make sure to add that readers should check the CDF history for its associations. I might rewrite that to be stronger in tone.--T. Anthony 09:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Now I'm feeling guilty. So I'll compromise.--T. Anthony 09:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How can a person be a political activist and have no point of view? As an activist what does he do, what does he stand for? Anyway, I will insert his perceived Marxism under why the pope silenced him. Thanks for the clarification. Dwain 01:30, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

Interview translation[edit]

I ask to someone to clean up a bit my translation from the interview in portuguese, were he seems to state the September 11 attacks had positive effects. User:Mistico

I made a small attempt to bring the communita italiana quote to more natural English. Oswald Glinkmeyer 13:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the whole 'Political Views' section could be removed. He is said to be critical of non-religious powers, without quote and in contradiction with what he says in that interview. The translation is taken out of context, and the translation has small errors that make it look like if he said the terrorist attack was a good think. Sorry, my English is not good enough to write a good translation. The quote about neoliberalism being fundamentalist is correct, however. Also in the section 'Break from Roman Catholic Church' the reader may be induced to think that he called Cardinal Ratzinger a religious terrorist for trying to silence him, when he actually said that '[someone like] Ratzinger, who publishes an official document where he says the only true church is the Catholic Church and the others do not even have faith, being just convictions and believes, act in religious terrorism, besides being a significant theological mistake."

Is the suggestion that Leonardo Boff's political views are of no relevance to his career or standing? If so, I think it is mistaken. If not, could you explain why relevant information should be omitted? As to the specifics of the interview, this is rather a slender source for the amount of weight it is being made to carry in this article, but it is a source. We'd all be grateful for the addition of more and better sources. --Paularblaster (talk) 15:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The world is not made up of objects but of relationships"[edit]

This quote is from Leonardo Boff. Could we put it on the page? I can't find the original article (it was on IPS) but I read it on [1] --217.113.7.96 12:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only if it can be integrated into the text of the article. If not, it should go on Wikiquote.--Rockero 15:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copy editing[edit]

added description to the 'interview to the communita italiana' link. added a 'notes' section.Spoonriver 13:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Used but not defined = Laicization[edit]

Laicization is a word I did not know, I had to search for it and find it was Loss of clerical state. I think this needs to be defined in the section that it is used because the section keeps referring to him being "silenced". Which is both ambiguous and colloquial in its usage here.147.147.221.206 (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]