Talk:Wellington College, Berkshire

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Former good article nomineeWellington College, Berkshire was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
September 22, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed

Visitor title[edit]

"HM Queen Elizabeth II" was wikified to British Monarch since it seems that the office of visitor is held ex-officio , instead of being held personally (as far as I can tell). 203.97.2.243 09:40, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Citing sources: slang section[edit]

Does the slang section really need to cite sources? 1, as far as I can tell, there are none; all the content will have come from people like me who go to the school. 2, most of the content is reverted anyway by RC patrollers. 3, the post of visitor is ex-officio, as it was originally Queen Victoria (I believe). haz (user talk) 12:38, 9 May 2006

Yes, it does need to cite sources, and if there are none, the section should be removed. Wikipedia:Verifiability is an offical policy, and can't be ignored. Regards, MartinRe 12:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary covers slang dictionaries. Section like this don't belong in this encyclopedia as they are only of local interest. They are being deleted from most id not all school articles. Adam McCormick 00:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To bump this age-old discussion (blimey, those were the days!), I've just removed bucketloads of uncitable OR from the page, in order to get it into shape for GA nomination. Fingers crossed on that front, but the page does need to be kept an eye on for the inevitable "insider scoops" on the history of fagging, college vocabulary, etc. that tend to appear perennially. haz (talk) 18:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming[edit]

Perhaps this article should be renamed to just Wellington college, seeing as all the other school in Berkshire follow this format.--Robertvan1 22:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is to disambiguate between Wellington School in Somerset and Wellington College, NZ. haz (user talk) 09:31, 25 June 2006
It would be a good idea for this article to ju st Wellington college since it is the only one of major consequence. The others page titles all have qualifiers anyway so this page should be moved to "Wellington College" and the existing disambig page moved to "Wellington College (disambiguation)". Mr Bluefin 07:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If noone objects within the next day or so I'll move the page to the suggestion above. I've already moved the existing dab. Mr Bluefin 07:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do object, consequence is a POV term. The Berkshire school may well be the most notable. If however, you are receiving your education in New Zealand, there is no reason why some institution in the antipodes is of more consequence. Dab pages often are better without the qualifier of disambigation in brackets as the disambiguation to the correct page can then be done via pop-ups.--A Y Arktos\talk 11:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with the current arrangement is that having the unqualified dab page linking to qualified article titles for each of the schools could give the impression that all the schools are of equal prominence (which I've said above was a wrong impression). My two cents are that: this article be moved to "Wellington College" and that the existing disambiguation page be moved to "(disambiguation)". I am not an alumnus of Wellington College in Berkshire, nor do I have any pro-Berkshire feelings. Mr Bluefin 11:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a section on Masters of the College[edit]

In particular, 3 spring to my mind: 

 - Benson, the First Master [also, cross-reference the Foundation of the College]
 - Longden, who was killed by a raid in WW2.
 - Driver, made stateless by the Apartheid-era South Africa, for his stance against Apartheid

Influence of Prince Albert[edit]

I recall, but cannot provide a reference, that it was, to some extent, fortunate for the College that Prince Albert passed away as young as he did. His original aim for the College was to turn it into a "technical school", on the German model, and it was only as a result of his demise that the college became a place dedicated to a general education. I am reasonably sure of this fact, being a former pupil, but cannot state it with authority.


GA: Not listed[edit]

A week has passed, and the raised issues have not been resolved, so I am failing this article for GA. Please don't feel discouraged: you can still use the review comments to improve the article, and renominate once you feel it is ready. All the best. Gwinva (talk) 00:22, 22 September 2008

max fowler[edit]

the best school in the world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.40.42.178 (talk) 11:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'Press' section[edit]

I work with Wellington College and am checking/updating the entry, including changing the Chairman of the Board of Governors to Sir Michael Rake. I have also taken out a 2003 entry under the Press section on the basis that it was very old and didn't fairly represent the school as it now is, as it has changed significantly since Dr Anthony Seldon arrived in 2006. Jstannard55 (talk) 19:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The film Lords of Discipline was filmed here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lords_of_Discipline_%28film%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.211.179 (talk) 20:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

COI then. Zezen (talk) 06:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable people[edit]

I have removed the teachers from the houses table per WP:LISTPEOPLE. I have also converted the table to Wikimarkup. For more information about building school articles please see WP:WPSCH/AG. Help is also available at WP:WPSCH/H. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:15, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charitable work[edit]

There's been some criticsm of public schools having charitable status. It would be useful to have a section in the article explaining Wellington's public benefits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shookwood (talk • contribs) 08:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nic Fiddian-Green[edit]

There's a sculpture of the Duke of Wellington's horse, 'Copenhagen', by Nic Fiddian-Green, at the College. I'm after a picture of it, for the artist's biography. Can anyone help, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

≠== Duke of Wellington ==

"who led British forces in a succession of large-scale military victories against often better-armed opponents."

As a summary of of Wellington's achievements and a précis of the Andrew Roberst article cited, this is pretty poor.

"British forces"- Wellington was an officer in the British army. The only other service at that time was the Royal Navy and Wellington did not command joint service operations as far as I am aware. The forces he commanded as a general were international in nature with British troops regularly fighting alongside Germans, Portuguese, Spanish- and later, Dutch-Belgians and Prussians. He led British troops in successive victories but as part of allied enterprises, albeit often with the United Kingdom as the leading partner.

"Large-scale victories"- what does that mean? Where they large-scale because of the size of forces engaged; the scale of the battlefield; importance of the victory?

"often better-armed opponents" This doesn't make sense. The technology of the age meant that the armies of the French wars all used weapons of broadly the same efficacy. The British infantry musket, the so-called "Brown Bess, remained in service for over a hundred years with only minor alterations, the Royal Artillery developed considerably during between 1793 and 1815 and the expertise of his gunners was often crucial to British success and the Rifle regiments, Wellington's élite light troops, were much better armed than their French counterparts. Perhaps the author meant to refer here to Wellington's frequent success against enemy forces that outnumbered his.JF42 (talk) 07:51, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The spamming for the Duke has been taken out now, as far as I can see.

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