Talk:Tokugawa Ieyasu

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Date of being shogun[edit]

I am no expert but Tokugawa Ieyasu was probably not shogun from 2018 to 2020.

130.225.198.235 (talk) 10:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Now fixed.--Chewings72 (talk) 11:15, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Notable descendants"[edit]

What is "notable" about the entries in the giant list of "notable descendants" at the end of the article? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 14:17, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More generally, the tables of relatives at the end of the article (parents, siblings, wives and concubines as well as descendants) do not present information efficiently -- many cells of the tables are almost entirely whitespace, and in other cells the information is packed so tightly that it is difficult to parse.

Many of these relatives of Ieyasu have articles of their own from which information is duplicated into this one. For example, in this Ieyasu article there is a table row in which we see a picture of his mother, Odai no Kata and other detailed information about her. Much of this information is already present in the Odai no Kata article. In particular, the small and nondescript picture of Odai no Kata (which creates unneeded whitespace in the table) is already present in her own article, but larger and more useful.

As a first step towards addressing this problem of inefficient information representation in the tables at the end of the Ieyasu article, would anyone object if I removed information about an Ieyasu relative from the tables if it duplicates information already present in the relative's article? I would leave basic information (name, kinship) and the wikilink to the relative's article so that the information would still be readily accessible to a reader of the Ieyasu article (in some cases this basic information is already available in the article infobox). This would not solve all the problems of the tables, but it would be a start.

Dieter.Meinertzhagen (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any objection, so I will start removing information about Ieyasu's relatives from the tables at the end of the Ieyasu article if that table information duplicates information in the relative's own wikilinked article.

Dieter.Meinertzhagen (talk) 05:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]