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cross references seems better than duplicating[edit]

Am struggling to understand why so much of this page talks of the history when there is a separate page for Samoan History ... similarly there were many sections on the Samoan Economy when there is a separate page for Samoan Economy ... etc etc ... does anyone care? ... are the guidelines about the extent to which a main page should reproduce content from another page?

Aus Meanderer (talk) 06:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Aus Meanderer: Main pages should have a WP:SUMMARYSTYLE of subpages. However, often additions and changes are put onto main pages rather than subpages due to their visibility, so things drift over time if noone is maintaining the article. Please feel free to transfer details from the main pages to subpages, leaving only a summary here! CMD (talk) 06:47, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

Here are a few sources for the pronunciation: [1][2][3][4][5]. This has been the standard pronunciation in NZ for longer than I've been alive, and as I understand it is the pronunciation Samoan diaspora communities use in other countries (although I'm not sure how easily I could find sources for this). --Prosperosity (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

joint British New Zealand administration[edit]

"then came under a joint British and New Zealand colonial administration until 1 January 1962" I think this is wrong. The administration was by New Zealand, under a League of Nations mandate and later a UN Trust Territory. It was only "British" in that at the beginning New Zealand was still a "British Dominion" Noel Ellis 01:13, 26 August 2022 (UTC) Noel Ellis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis (talk • contribs)

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Religion[edit]

The in Country Information template there is a list of religion adherence. This has two references. One says that 98% of the population is Christian. The other gives numbers of people who adhere to particular churches. Nowhere does it categorise these churches as being Protestant or even Christian. An edit was made that gave a different percentage of various groups and combined several groups as being Protestant. It also invented a group 'Other Christian' that was not in the cited reference. This information is either uncited or original research.

An edit to replace the figures by percentages derived from the actual reference has been reverted. It is necessary for the new figures to be referenced. Rather than get into a revert contest, I'll wait a day. Unless there is any evidence that the made up figures are true, I'll revert to the official figures. OrewaTel (talk) 21:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added the mainline protestant denominations into a single group, along with Mormonism, Catholicism and other Christian categories taken from the religion in Samoa. Your figures don't even add up to 100% and give infobox a very bad look too. So I have removed them for good and instead mentioned that Christianity is official religion same as before.Serralia (talk) 23:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have two references. https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/samoa-officially-becomes-a-christian-state/ states that Samoa is 98% Christian. The other https://www.sbs.gov.ws/documents/census/2021/Census_2021_Final_Report.pdf?_t=1670528927 is the official census and gives the recorded figures for several different religions and sects. Whilst the exact census figures add to 100% the rounded figures add to 100.1%. This is a common problem whenever figures are rounded and has two solutions. We can just leave the figures and trust that people will note there is a rounding error. Alternatively we can round one of the figures down and so get 100%. Note that the census figures do not totally align with the Newspaper article. Presumably the article was rounded to the nearest 1%. Perhaps we can omit the 98% figure. OrewaTel (talk) 12:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]